Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-21-2017, 05:12 PM   #161
Iniggywetrust
Scoring Winger
 
Iniggywetrust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Penticton, BC
Exp:
Default

There was some tall that there were going to be some throw away picks. I wonder if this was one of them. If so, that looks poorly upon the players we made available. Not even worth picking up for free.
__________________
Living with Canucks fans since '86
Iniggywetrust is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 05:15 PM   #162
Hoop27
Backup Goalie
 
Hoop27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss View Post
unless he signed in the last hour, would be presumptuous to name him captain No?
Any other reason him to pick him now?
Hoop27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 05:16 PM   #163
Roof-Daddy
Franchise Player
 
Roof-Daddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoop27 View Post
Any other reason him to pick him now?
Because now he's a Vegas UFA and not a CGY UFA, so they can negotiate exclusively until the FA period opens up (about 5 days IIRC?).
Roof-Daddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 05:16 PM   #164
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

I doubt he would be the throwaway pick. They could of taken any other of the Flames UFAs in that case.

Taking Engelland, who lives in Las Vegas, is a PR move for their local media to cover. Not someone they make no attempt to sign.
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 05:17 PM   #165
Jiri Hrdina
Franchise Player
 
Jiri Hrdina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Exp:
Default

Positive: I didn't really want to lose a guy like Shinkaruk who i think still has some upsdie
Negative: would have preferred to lose a bad contract.
Jiri Hrdina is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 05:28 PM   #166
Gunkle
Scoring Winger
 
Gunkle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: YYC
Exp:
Default

McPhee should impress us and have a deal in place that is an Derek E sign and trade for Brouwer (50%) retained plus a prospect and a 3rd/4th line roster player (Stajan or Bouma).

We knows we need the D depth.
Gunkle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 06:03 PM   #167
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

I thought they may take Kulak or Shinkaruk so they could take a look at them in training camp and waive them rather than pick players under contract like Bouma, Stajan, or Brouwer that are overpaid for what they bring to the table. This is essentially the same except it appears they didn't feel either Kulak or Shinkaruk was worth a look.
Erick Estrada is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 06:08 PM   #168
Stay Golden
Franchise Player
 
Stay Golden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
Exp:
Default

If this is true the Flames get away basically untouched since Engelland is going to be available to LV July 1 anyways. Honestly a real waste of a pick by McPhee if true. Engelland would have been neen ttere for signing on July 1. Smh @ McPhee. Great news for Treliving.
__________________
Stay Golden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 06:15 PM   #169
Cecil Terwilliger
That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
 
Cecil Terwilliger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iniggywetrust View Post
There was some talk that there were going to be some throw away picks. I wonder if this was one of them. If so, that looks poorly upon the players we made available. Not even worth picking up for free.
No picks for Vegas are throwaway picks. That'd be terrible asset management. But they can't pick $4m players from every team. It's not a bad idea to take some role players.

We can't evaluate the Flames available players without knowing how Vegas has them ranked in relation to their needs. Even if they don't sign him, and I'd be a little surprised if they didn't, they may feel his value to them is worth the risk of him not signing.
Cecil Terwilliger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 06:20 PM   #170
H2SO4(aq)
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Exp:
Default

We must be the wimpiest team in the league now. GONNA need some big mean players to avoid being bullied in the pacific.
H2SO4(aq) is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to H2SO4(aq) For This Useful Post:
Old 06-21-2017, 06:34 PM   #171
SeanCharles
First Line Centre
 
SeanCharles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Exp:
Default

The most disappointing aspect is we have little wiggle room in regards to adding an outside piece to our forward group, barring a move:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Lazar
Chiasson-Stajan-Brouwer
Bouma-Jankowski

I guess you could say Lazar and Jankowski added to the mix as regulars would be a change but still would be nice to add a top-6 player:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Neal
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Bennett-Versteeg
Stajan-Jankowski-Lazar
Bouma/Chiasson
SeanCharles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 06:41 PM   #172
FireGilbert
Franchise Player
 
FireGilbert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
Exp:
Default

Good news if true. I am sad to see Engelland leave and hoped he would be back on a cheap one year contract but in all likely hood that wasn't happening.

Yeah it would have been nice to get salary relief by losing Brouwer or Stajan however although they are overpaid the team would have been worse off by losing them.
__________________
The masses of humanity have always had to surf.
FireGilbert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 06:43 PM   #173
savemedrzaius
Help, save, whatever.
 
savemedrzaius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Exp:
Default

Engelland lives in Vegas, no?

Why wouldn't the Knights just wait until free agency before signing him?

They didn't want any of the Flames exposed players?
savemedrzaius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 06:59 PM   #174
rooster
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Exp:
Default Exactly

Quote:
Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq) View Post
We must be the wimpiest team in the league now. GONNA need some big mean players to avoid being bullied in the pacific.
If he is gone those dinks(Kasian , Lucic, Maroon) in Edmonton are gonna have a field day roughing up all the softy tofty marshmallows on the flames.
rooster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 07:01 PM   #175
Machiavelli
Franchise Player
 
Machiavelli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rooster View Post
If he is gone those dinks(Kasian , Lucic, Maroon) in Edmonton are gonna have a field day roughing up all the softy tofty marshmallows on the flames.
No way, Brouwer's a tough cookie. He'll step up!

Oh wait…
__________________
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. I love power.
Machiavelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 07:02 PM   #176
dino7c
Franchise Player
 
dino7c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rooster View Post
If he is gone those dinks(Kasian , Lucic, Maroon) in Edmonton are gonna have a field day roughing up all the softy tofty marshmallows on the flames.
He was already gone!
__________________
GFG
dino7c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 07:08 PM   #177
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

Engelland confirmed
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 07:09 PM   #178
sureLoss
Some kinda newsbreaker!
 
sureLoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
Exp:
Default

Foley says he is signed
sureLoss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 07:10 PM   #179
GioforPM
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
Exp:
Default

There was no way Calgary was re-signing him (for the money he is going to want). Good luck to him though.
GioforPM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2017, 07:11 PM   #180
mrdonkey
Franchise Player
 
mrdonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Exp:
Default

Pretty damning indictment on the Flame's depth when Luca Spisa makes the cut and the Flames couldn't give any of their players away for free. Seems like one of the 'burn picks' McPhee was talking about.
mrdonkey is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mrdonkey For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:32 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy