[News] UPD: Wild Claim Stoll. Khudobin clears waivers.

[btimbit]

I'm not too worried about having lots of goalies in the system, as long as there's only 2 in the NHL.

Calgary - Ramo/Khudobin
Stockton - Ortio/Hiller
Adirondack - Appleby/The other guy

Gillies is injured, not expected back at all this season. That leaves Poulin (Also injured, but back mid January I belive) and Simpson. Simpson can be sent to the ECHL no issue. Poulin would have to consent, but regardless, having 3 goalies in Stockton isn't horrible imo. Keep in mind trading a AHL goalie probably wouldn't be too hard.

Still not seeing a down side to a claim. If he's better than Hiller, sweet, we upgraded. If not, just throw him back on waivers.

Worst case scenario is we claim him, lose Hiller to waivers, and Khudobin also sucks. For the sake of arguement, say he's worse than Hiller was. So we waive him, and he also gets claimed. I'm still not upset, so what, we lost two bad goalies who's expiring contracts we weren't going to renew at that point anyway. Then you have Ramo/Ortio in Calgary, Poulin/Simpson in the AHL and Adirondack's usual guys in the ECHL. Not really any worse off than we are now

I still say go for it

[CanadaMatt]

When you have the opportunity to have four 'keepers under one-way deals, jump at the chance.

...said no successful GM ever.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

When you have the opportunity to have four 'keepers under one-way deals, jump at the chance.

...said no successful GM ever.

But all of those one way contracts expire at the end of the season. Right now the only guy we re-sign is Ortio. I still don't see the risk. Yeah it's a lot of money tied up in goaltenders, but it has no future implications

[CalgaryFan1988]

I hope they pass. Khudobin looked terrible against the Flames.

They don't need to take up a roster spot on a bandaid.

[Dion]

I say we waive Hiller to Stockton and bring up Ortio.

[theg69]

Originally Posted by Dion

I say we waive Hiller to Stockton and bring up Ortio.

Ya.. Because Ortio's .877 save percentage in the minors is gonna translate well with the big team

Although I could get on board with picking up Khodobin and waiving Hiller... I doubt anyone would claim Hiller and we could always waive Khodobin if he doesn't work out...

[Caged Great]

Khudobin is the type of goalie you acquire if you have a Martin Brodeur/Miikka Kiprusoff/Henrik Lundqvist goalie that will play 70+ games. He is a lousy goalie and not an upgrade on either Hiller or Ramo, which is saying a lot. Hiller has struggled mightily this season, so much so that it may be his last in the NHL, but Khudobin is just as prone to allowing bad goals/rebounds.

Why waste the contract spot for someone that isn't an upgrade.

Ortio also has been very inconsistent in Stockton. Some games he plays like he used to, others he gives up stinkers like he did early in the season.

[Badgers Nose]

Yeah. Im swayed to the no camp too.

Like others have said the Flames should focus on long term not band aids.

[N-E-B]

I don't see how the Flames are abandoning the future by claiming a goalie for one year? What's the big deal about adding one contract for this year only?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by theg69

Ya.. Because Ortio's .877 save percentage in the minors is gonna translate well with the big team

Although I could get on board with picking up Khodobin and waiving Hiller... I doubt anyone would claim Hiller and we could always waive Khodobin if he doesn't work out...

Khudobin is not an upgrade over Hiller or Ramo and waisting a roster spot on him makes zero sense. I'd rather give Ortio another chance.

Hiller has zero confidence in his game and might (big if) benefit with a stint in Stockton.

[FBI]

I prefer trying Ortio over Hiller as well but possibly prefer Khudobin over both for this year..

[Point Blank]

I still don't understand the whole roster spot issue. Khodobin's contract ends at the end of the season and we still have space for more players even with Khudobin for this season.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

When you have the opportunity to have four 'keepers under one-way deals, jump at the chance.

...said no successful GM ever.

I wouldn't call Treliving a successful GM yet.

So maybe we will claim him.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Again, anyone saying that Khudobin isn't an upgrade over our goalies needs to look at the raw numbers. You might have an issue with his consistency, but when he's on he's really good. When our goalies are on they might not give up a bad goal, but that's about it.

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by FBI

I prefer trying Ortio over Hiller as well but possibly prefer Khudobin over both for this year..

Where was everyone when we tried Ortio already and h was getting lit?

It's the definition of insanity!

[FBI]

We didn't "try" Ortio.. he got like 2 games after a month of riding the bench..
If we would have given him 3-4 games straight like Ramo, who knows what would have happened.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Khudobin is the type of goalie you acquire if you have a Martin Brodeur/Miikka Kiprusoff/Henrik Lundqvist goalie that will play 70+ games. He is a lousy goalie and not an upgrade on either Hiller or Ramo, which is saying a lot. Hiller has struggled mightily this season, so much so that it may be his last in the NHL, but Khudobin is just as prone to allowing bad goals/rebounds.

Why waste the contract spot for someone that isn't an upgrade.

Ortio also has been very inconsistent in Stockton. Some games he plays like he used to, others he gives up stinkers like he did early in the season.

Terrible analysis. Khudobin is a type of goalie you put besides guys like Ramo. Not 70+ game starters as he's more then that. You want him beside a guy like Ramo, so you can push Ramo to be better. Guys like Marty/Kipper don't need to be pushed.

He is not a lousy goalie. You might want to check his numbers. He's very acrobatic and makes some fantastic saves.

Who on Ducks has looked good this year? So if the same excuse was valid for Flames earlier this year then why not for the Ducks?

He might be 30 but for a goalie he hasnt had lot of miles on him. I would easily have him over Hiller, no even a question. I've watched Khudobin for a while now, he has the potential but somehow ends up in bad situations.

There's literally no risk involved here, claim him and waive Hiller. If it works out great, if it doesn't let him go.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by FBI

We didn't "try" Ortio.. he got like 2 games after a month of riding the bench..
If we would have given him 3-4 games straight like Ramo, who knows what would have happened.

And those games were when the entire team played awful.

Ortio hasn't been great in the AHL either though

[Vinny01]

I won't be pissed if the Flames out in a claim I just don't think it is the right move. I rather try and get a better goalie via trade than a career backup approaching 30. To me he wouldn't take the number 1 job from Ramo and just eat up a contract spot and either go to the minors eventually or we keep Hiller in the minors all year. I get why people are all for it because the risk is low and some feel the reward is potentially high. I just don't think he is the answer and not worth the contract spot and rather the Flames keep as much flexibility as possible

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I won't be pissed if the Flames out in a claim I just don't think it is the right move. I rather try and get a better goalie via trade than a career backup approaching 30. To me he wouldn't take the number 1 job from Ramo and just eat up a contract spot and either go to the minors eventually or we keep Hiller in the minors all year. I get why people are all for it because the risk is low and some feel the reward is potentially high. I just don't think he is the answer and not worth the contract spot and rather the Flames keep as much flexibility as possible

What better goalies are available?
Is Bernier better, maybe but he hasn't shown any consistency.
After placing Khudobin on waivers, Ducks are clearly saying neither of their goalies are available.
Tamps, has playoff aspirations, they're not about to trade Bishop mid-season.
Howard? is he a better? he's signed for 5.3mill for 2 more years. If he sucks here then its a bigger issue.
Ward? pass
Elliott? Possible but don't think Blues are ready to move him
Nuevirth? Possibly

Not many available choices right now. Maybe come off-season.