Curtis Glencross on FAN960 @4:25 UPD: Tryout with Avalanche?

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I don't blame the guy one bit for making those comments or feeling that way. I tend to agree with him, he likely could have negotiated a bit better deal. No point dwelling in the past, but I suspect the interview question was targeted to that.

As mentioned, he lost his energy, inspiration, physical play. He refused to go to the hard areas, he refused to skate with urgency and his work ethic dropped off significantly from when he started to the end when he was traded.

It's not super surprising he hasn't been signed yet, and if he gets one more chance he better look in the mirror, do a little soul searching and act as if he's a rookie trying to crack the league.

All that said I do find it extremely odd that Setoguchi was offered a PTO before Glencross.

He has received PTOs from teams already. So more than one.

[Poe969]

I just see this as sour grapes on his part. As some pointed out, he may have left money on the table but he got term and a NTC. I also think that he played above his contract....but not nearly as much as some think.

If he would have been making more, there would have also been a chance that he was traded to a team struggling to make the cap floor or if his contract was that bad, he could have been bought out.

Him saying he regrets taking a discount is the equivalent of the Flames saying they wish they hadn't given him a NTC and traded him sooner.

Either way, I think his best bet for the future is to work as hard as he once did and earn a contract based on what he is doing and can do, not focus on what he once did.

[Huntingwhale]

I don't blame Glencross at all for saying what he did. Who of us here hasn't regretted taking a higher paying job at some point when they had the chance because they were comfortable where they were?

I'd also love to know the exact question that was asked to him. Clearly whomever was interviewing him worded the question in a way that the response would directly relate to him taking a discount.

[Vinny01]

Glennie probably wishes he went with shorter term but really his cap hit was only $500k light and he got a full NMC in the deal so it was a fair contract. Unfortunately for Glencross he did not perform too well during the final year of his deal and was amazing the first couple years after it was signed. Scoring 26 goals in 67 games he certainly listened to many say he was very underpaid. He was looking to make up for it on this contract but teams are not looking at paying a 32 year old bottom 6 forward $4M on a long term deal.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

1 in 10? Come on man, you know the AVERAGE NHL player makes over $3m, right?

So because they are getting paid close to the average of the NHL player that means that Stajan, Raymond, Jones, Smid, Engelland (all continually listed as players to be moved to be able to pay Bennett) actually have good value contracts?

Is Frolik part of the core for the next 5 years?

Gio,Hamilton,Brodie,Monahan, Bennett,Gaudreau (no goalie as of yet)

Your core 6 players will take up at least 50% of your cap. That leaves around 35M for the rest of your 24 man roster.... around 2M / player.

If Frolik is not part of the core , using your logic, Frolik is getting overpaid by 2.3M / year for the next 5 years.


even taking the bottom 4 forwards and 2 D-men making 1M that leaves 29M for the 12 support players to share: less than 2.5M.

[Strange Brew]

I had to check the stats to see he really did score 26 goals that year. That's a big number in today's NHL. He was always inconsistent but his play has really dropped off.

[AcGold]

Glencross is a third line player that got boosted stats playing with Iginla. That's it, as a third line player Glencross will be an excellent addition to most teams. I don't see it as sour grapes, losing his work ethic or anything.

He said he wanted to play more? So freaking what, that's what hockey players want. I hated him on the team, not because of who he was but because he shouldn't have been in the roles expected of him. It's like putting Byron or Bollig on the second line and then being shocked when they don't work out.

He's a depth player that was shoved into a bigger role, when he started with Iginla he could hardly receive a pass and would stand around with nobody covering him because it was better than taking on Iginla 1 on 1. I've never seen so much analysis and discussion over a depth player.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

I have no issues with what Glencross said, I like that he spoke his mind and gave an honest reflection.

My only issue is the way he packages it up as a "hometown discount". And again, not because I think he's showing sour grapes or anything, but because I don't think he actually took one. Glencross, IMO traded money for an NTC. It would be a hometown discount if he took that contract with Calgary and didn't get an NTC.

The fact of the matter is, Glencross would not have gotten what was likely "market value" for him (i.e. more than Calgary gave) and an NTC if he went elsewhere. He chose to take less money in exchange for an NTC, which gave him location security and a "say" in where he might get moved to. Glencross isn't close to good enough of a player to get an NTC without having to pay for it. He has clearly indicated how important playing close to home was to him back when he signed it, and he made a choice to pick location security over more money.

Totally cool with him looking back on it in hindsight and saying he'd rather have taken the money, that's fair, but I don't like the "colouring" of it like he gave something up and got nothing in return for it.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by AcGold

I've never seen so much analysis and discussion over a depth player.

Pfft... 9 pages for Glencross is pretty good considering some of the epic threads that centered around Jason Morgan, Dustin Boyd and others.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Pfft... 9 pages for Glencross is pretty good considering some of the epic threads that centered around Jason Morgan, Dustin Boyd and others.

Remember when we signed Krys Kolanos? That was madness.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by AcGold

Glencross is a third line player that got boosted stats playing with Iginla. That's it, as a third line player Glencross will be an excellent addition to most teams. I don't see it as sour grapes, losing his work ethic or anything.

He said he wanted to play more? So freaking what, that's what hockey players want. I hated him on the team, not because of who he was but because he shouldn't have been in the roles expected of him. It's like putting Byron or Bollig on the second line and then being shocked when they don't work out.

He's a depth player that was shoved into a bigger role, when he started with Iginla he could hardly receive a pass and would stand around with nobody covering him because it was better than taking on Iginla 1 on 1. I've never seen so much analysis and discussion over a depth player.

I honestly don't remember him playing with Iginla that much. His time here overlapped with the tenures of Cammalleri, Tanguay and later Hudler. he was never once our #1 LW.

[AC]

From http://hockey.dobbersports.com/

In 2012-2013:
Glencross - Stajan - Stempniak was the most frequent line at 35.67% even strength
Glencross and Iginla were together about 20%

In 2011-2012:
Glencross - Jokinen - Iginla was the most frequent line at 41.61% even strength

[Locke]

I will miss him when we play the Oilers, he loved to light them up.

Hopefully that tradition continues wherever he ends up.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Locke

Remember when we signed Krys Kolanos? That was madness.

God I couldn't stand his skating style.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Locke

I will miss him when we play the Oilers, he loved to light them up.

Hopefully that tradition continues wherever he ends up.

Don't forget he used to light the Flames up every time he played us when he was with Columbus and Edmonton.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Don't forget he used to light the Flames up every time he played us when he was with Columbus and Edmonton.

Yeah pretty sure Darryl signed him based on how he played against the Flames as an Oiler and Bluejacket.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah pretty sure Darryl signed him based on how he played against the Flames as an Oiler and Bluejacket.

The fact Glencross was an Alberts boy didn't hurt either. Summer 2008 was the best under Darryl. Signed Glencross and Bertuzzi while trading for Cammalleri and Bourque. He got good assets for Tanguay and didn't overpay to keep Husselius. He also brought Gio back from Russia and drafted Bouma and Brodie with his 3rd and 4th round picks

[MissTeeks]

@NHLbyMatty: Understand Oilers considered Glencross on PTO but will go with their own signed forwards first. Draisaitl will get look on wing on 3rd line

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

@NHLbyMatty: Understand Oilers considered Glencross on PTO but will go with their own signed forwards first. Draisaitl will get look on wing on 3rd line

not good enough for the Oilers...bad sign

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

not good enough for the Oilers...bad sign

But also shows that E+NG. Glencross' game has slipped but he's better than a lot of what they have. And supplies a lot of what they don't.