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Old 05-13-2015, 08:01 AM   #161
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I think a high end defender like Chabot should be in our sights unless we can trade up and get one of the other top Dmen. If a defender isn't an option I'd go with a RW like Meier. I know you always take the best player available but where the Flames are picking, the talent level is pretty even across the board so I think we should focus on D and RW as those are the positions we need the most help in.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:37 AM   #162
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I know very little about this draft compared to some others here, but doing some quick reading there are 3 players I think fit exactly what Calgary needs and may be available at #15.

Chabot
Meier
Svechnikov

in that order please.

I think there are good enough players available at #15 to not be giving up assets to move up a few spots. Doesn't seem to be much point to me. 3 2nd round picks means that at least one of them will likely be an NHLer. I'd rather take the odds at #15 being a good player and any of the 3 2nd round picks being an NHLer, rather than picking #10 and getting the exact player we want, and then hoping that our one remaining 2nd round pick turns into an NHLer.
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That is a horrible player comparison. Their games are nothing alike.
The 5-foot-11, 180-pound winger isn’t trying to become “the next Jordan Eberle,” but he looks up to him and has tried to emulate parts of his game after the Oilers’ 2008 first-round pick.

“Eberle is a role model of mine,” said Klimchuk. “I really like his work ethic. I trained with him with Crash Conditioning in Calgary. I got to see how hard he works and what he does to push himself. I also think I play a bit like him. He creates space and is at the right place at the time right time a lot.”

Similar to Eberle when he was playing for the Queen City Kids, Klimchuk has stood out for his goal-scoring ability and work ethic.

“I think he’s a franchise player because of his talent and hard work,” said Pats GM Chad Lang in an interview with BTN in March. “He’s earned everything he’s gotten. He works hard and is really dedicated to the game. He’s always looking for ways to improve.”
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:48 AM   #164
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Hey sureLoss, you were pumping Jeremy Roy's tires pretty good a couple months ago. Just wondering if the choice was ours, would you pick Roy over Chabot?

Also, if Provorov or Werenski were available at say 10-13, would you try to trade one of our 2nd rounders to move up to nab one of them?

Finally, if all 4 of those players are gone, would you consider picking Kylington or go a different direction? Say a winger instead?

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Old 05-13-2015, 08:55 AM   #165
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Hey sureLoss, you were pumping Jeremy Roy's tires pretty good a couple months ago. Just wondering if the choice was ours, would you pick Roy over Chabot?

Also, if Provorov or Werenski were available at say 10-13, would you try to trade one of our 2nd rounders to move up to nab one of them?

Finally, if all 4 of those players are gone, would you consider picking Kylington or go a different direction? Say a winger instead?

Thanks.
id be shocked if Provorov makes that far. He's one of the few guys i have got a chance to watch, and he looks awesome (means nothing since i have no relative comparison), but i believe all mick drafts have him as the #2 dman in the draft after hanifin.

It would be great if we got either of the guys you mentioned though.

I doubt they will be available, so i think we might be getting a forward in the first round given the "BPA" nature of the first round.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:18 AM   #166
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Hey sureLoss, you were pumping Jeremy Roy's tires pretty good a couple months ago. Just wondering if the choice was ours, would you pick Roy over Chabot?

Also, if Provorov or Werenski were available at say 10-13, would you try to trade one of our 2nd rounders to move up to nab one of them?

Finally, if all 4 of those players are gone, would you consider picking Kylington or go a different direction? Say a winger instead?

Thanks.
I think I would take Chabot over Roy. Roy has higher offensive upside, but Chabot has a larger frame and a calmness about him. I also like the character he showed after being scratched early on in the season. Shows a commitment to get better in all aspects of the game and being able to handle criticism.

If all the Flames had to do to get one of Werenski or Provorov is give up a 2nd rounder to trade up, I do it no hesitation. They are pretty much consensus top tier defencemen in this draft along with Hanifin.

I am also of the growing opinion that Chabot could become a better player than Werenski, but there is also a good chance he doesn't and will likely need more development time than Werenski.

Regardless of which defencemen are available, I still go with BPA. Kylington tumbling down the rankings scares me and I wouldn't take a chance on him unless the Flames were picking 20th or later.

I really like Harkins as a forward, even though Flames have a lot of C depth.
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God I hope so. Deep draft.

Nicholas Meloche please.

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Nope, because the "quality" part is too unpredictable. Better to have extra bullets.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:41 AM   #169
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I really like Harkins too. Good size, really good hockey iq, great vision, high character and a good skater.

Plays a 2 way game and put up a ton of points in the 2nd half of the year, and did it without much help (similar to Monahan in his draft year). I think his stock is rising and would not at all be surprised if the Flames took him.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:50 AM   #170
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Chabot seems to check a lot of boxes for the team, in addition to potentially being BPA.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:52 AM   #171
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I am intrigued by the other 2 Swedish defensmen that have been rising up the rankings lately. Gabriel Carlsson and Jakob Larsson. Anybody seen them play? Could they fall to 45 or are they first rounders?
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:57 AM   #172
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Lot's of these choices are in the 15-25 ranking currently. I think there will be a guy or two roughly in the top 10 rankings prior to the draft who falls to 15.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:59 AM   #173
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Whoever the Flames pick at #15 I hope it is a D or RW. Fortunately there are good options for both positions.

but anyone expecting a #15 pick to help us now is dreaming. The only hope of drafting help is if Treliving trades up -- which will be difficult to say the least.
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Whoever the Flames pick at #15 I hope it is a D or RW. Fortunately there are good options for both positions.

but anyone expecting a #15 pick to help us now is dreaming. The only hope of drafting help is if Treliving trades up -- which will be difficult to say the least.
I agree with this and I would take it a step further.

I hope we can get a RD, LD, RW (in that prioritization). In fact, I would be happy to see 3 of our first 4 picks go in that direction based on the best players available each time we go up in the first 2 rounds.

Currently Roy is my favorite for the #15 pick. "extremely smart" RD with top pair potential.
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I'm not too worried about prioritizing one wing. For the most part guys can switch wings without any lowering of their game. Hudler moved to the right wing this season from the left side, Klimchuk was put on the right side this season in junior as well, took some adjustment but he's been great there.

As far as 15th, I hope we go on a run of blueliners. Chabot at 15 would be fantastic, as would getting atleast two more guys in the 2nd round.
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I'm not too worried about prioritizing one wing. For the most part guys can switch wings without any lowering of their game. Hudler moved to the right wing this season from the left side, Klimchuk was put on the right side this season in junior as well, took some adjustment but he's been great there.

As far as 15th, I hope we go on a run of blueliners. Chabot at 15 would be fantastic, as would getting atleast two more guys in the 2nd round.
They need some right handed shots though. Switching over a LW isn't really ideal.
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Nope, because the "quality" part is too unpredictable. Better to have extra bullets.
So much this.

It would basically be like moving Fiala + Barbashev + McKeown for Nylander using a comparable group of players from last year, if we to use our 2nds to move up a few spots. There isn't much difference between the 10 and 15 mark, and you would be shedding so much talent for a marginal upgrade.
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They need some right handed shots though. Switching over a LW isn't really ideal.
Do they need right handed shots? I get it for a blueliner on the powerplay but beyond that, it's not a huge concern. If a guy can play his off wing naturally, like Emilie Poirer, I don't see what it's better that he shots right.

Was it Button or Treliving in a draft video last year that mentioned the way a guy shoots was very far down their list of abilities?
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They need some right handed shots though. Switching over a LW isn't really ideal.
This is true, but an organization doesn't fill all its holes in one draft.

There are future drafts, free agency and trades.

Treliving stated last year handedness is low priority when ranking prospects for draft lists.
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Do they need right handed shots? I get it for a blueliner on the powerplay but beyond that, it's not a huge concern. If a guy can play his off wing naturally, like Emilie Poirer, I don't see what it's better that he shots right.

Was it Button or Treliving in a draft video last year that mentioned the way a guy shoots was very far down their list of abilities?
Well better player trumps shooting hand, but it sure helps defensively to take the puck off the boards on your forehand.
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