[PGT] Flames lose 4-2 in Game 4. Ducks lead series 3-1. Brink of elimination

[dino7c]

they scored on the first of the double minor and it certainly was a 2 min penalty...get over it

Could have called Stajan on the Flames 2nd goal too

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by AC

@RyanNPike 25s25 seconds ago
Let's say the #Flames lose on Sunday. A team in Year 2 of rebuild that's usually out-shot massively got 11 playoff games in.

Well said. So much to be proud of regardless how Sunday goes. I love this team, and can't wait until next season. Gaudreau in his 2nd year, Bennett and Ferland full-time, Gio back? My god.

Agreed. I posted this on HF:

Yep, 2nd year of the rebuild and,
I believe we're the youngest team in the playoffs, we have our best player out of the line-up, we are struggling to get to the cap floor, and we have a lot of picks in the top end of this years draft. All that, and we're in the 2nd round of the playoffs.

What a year.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I still maintain Kesler interfered on the game winning goal with Ramo.

His skate was in the crease, and Ramo's pad caught on his skate when tried going post to post.

Gif please?

That rule has not existed since 1999.

[browntrout]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

Except tonight apparently. 0 points for both of them. Anaheim is just a good team from top to bottom with lots of depth. Hard to defend against 3-4 lines that can score.

well hopefully this will be a new trend and the flames can squeak out a win in Anahiem....I might sacrifice a chicken in my basement to break this curse.......it might get messy

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

That rule has not existed since 1999.

Oh my God dude, read the whole sentence.

[Walter Reed]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I actually thought it was the Flames' best game of the series. Came down to a few plays that the Ducks made.
This series is such an education for this team. The Canucks series was too, but not to this extent because the Nucks just don't play that heavy brand of playoff hockey.
I like the fact that I think for the most part the guys are playing better as this goes on - they are learning on the fly. This series, win or lose, will pay dividends down the road.
But I think we see Game 6 back here. Going to be tough to win 3 straight, but I don't think this ends in 5.

Absolutely, the Flames have nothing to hang their heads about. The game could have gone either way, both teams left it all on the ice. Very entertaining game from start to finish.

[Sgrath]

Disappointed, just trying to remember year 2 rebuild etc. etc.

So we have to win twice in duckville, "well that is a million to one shot and as we all know those happen nine times out of ten"

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by dino7c

they scored on the first of the double minor and it certainly was a 2 min penalty...get over it

Could have called Stajan on the Flames 2nd goal too

Disagree. Stajan was at a full stop. He had established his ice. The Duck player was 3 feet away then backed into him. Stajan did not go out of his way to cause this.

[Hockeyguy15]

We need CP Mafia to start so you guys can lynch someone. Some of you are too wound up, don't get too high and don't get too low.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by browntrout

not to sure about that...ducks played a good game as well...you can call them lucky if you want, but its very hard to win hockey games with any consistency when in the first four games the opposition has scored 16 goals. Calgary has not been able to defend against Perry or Getzlaf.

Go Flames Go

Not tonight. How many points did Perry and Getzlaf gets tonight? Flames were winning and controlling the game until Gaudreau turned the puck over for the Ducks to tie the game. Then when the Ducks scored on the PP early in the 3rd that's the only time the momentum shifted to the Ducks. Of course killing the 5 on 3 penalty really pumped up the Ducks and Flames just couldn't recover from it but they never give up.

[Buck]

I'm really sad bit not mad. We have shown we can play with the Ducks. Bring on Sunday

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

I honestly thought that was the best 5 on 5 defensive game from the Flames this series. The Ducks scored 2 on the PP (which has been blisteringly hot BTW), and then one on the turnover by Gaudreau with a late empty netter. Despite 4 goals, Perry and Getzlaf didn't have a single point. Hard to pin any of tonight on the defense.

That's because Ramo was good in net. The 3 goals were either give-aways or a deflected shot off a d-man's stick in their own zone because there's no defensive coverage or they're giving the puck carrier too much room. Most of the time, they're looking for the puck or looking for a block shot rather than playing the body. Flames defence gives the opposition teams (not just the Ducks) too much room to manoeuvre in their own zone. The Ducks are definitely taking huge advantage of this, especially the Getzlaf/Perry line.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

John Shannon @JSportsnet
Oh to be a fly on the wall for the next meeting between Flames' mngmnt and the league series supervisor. Lots of Corey Perry discussion.

Clearly the series supervisor had a major impact on tonight's game after the Duck's were whining heavily about the powerplay discrepancy in game 3. It's pretty ridiculous that there's no shock when the refs magically decide to stop calling penalties tonight after a powerplay filled game. It's as if they are explicitly told too. The idea of a "series supervisor" is actually kind of insulting. If the refs are competent enough to be in the playoffs then why not let them go out there and call the game as they see it? Why do they need some league cronie dictating their decisions?

Game's like tonight's make you hard to appreciate the integrity of the NHL. We've all seen plenty of playoff games where the refs decide to just put the whistles away and "let the players play". It's quite evident that this decision isn't made by the actual refs, but above. But the blatantly obvious issue with this to anyone with some semblance of intelligence is the fact that certain penalties (high stick, delay of game, too many men) are deemed black & white by the league and continue to be called as such after they dictate that the refs should put the whistles away. If they want to "let the players play" and let Corey Perry take dangerous runs at our goaltender and charging & interference penalties then why the hell is every high stick a penalty and a marginal too many men a penalty? Why are some penalties acceptable to not be called (and actually celebrated by idiot analysts), but some aren't?

The entire system is flawed. There's not a single other professional sport that operates like this. In the 4th quarter of NFL playoff games, do you see the refs not call pass interference and holding calls, but only call offsides penalties because it's a black/white call? The sheer notion of it is ridiculous. But that's how the NHL operates and it has a major impact of playoff games and series.

The laughable part is that after they "manage" the game they throw one powerplay the Flames way and then dictate that everything is evened up. Unfortunately that's not how pro sports work - the damage is already done and the entire flow and course of the game has already been altered. What happens if the Flames score on one of those obvious penalties that would've been called a month ago? How the league calls it's games needs a major overhaul and the problem is a hell of a lot deeper than solely tonight's game.

[hockey.modern]

Was Bouma playing a lot? I didn't see him much out there

[FlamesNation23]

We have come back all year and no reason to think it stops now. Up by two is the worst lead in hockey

[SuperMatt18]

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

I find it more satisfying to set my expectations low and get pleasantly surprised when things go well.

MOD EDIT: That's a bit too much

[Stay Golden]

The Flames D as awesome as they have been getting us to even be here made a complete mess of that 2 man advantage.
It's pretty hard to come back when an opportunity like that is thrown away.
That changed everything for the game and the series.
It's not over yet but ANA is much more closer to winning in 5 now.
So depressing.

[Buck Murdock]

We need more Bennett in game 5

[ricosuave]

Believe.

A setback but we've bounced back before.

No reason to think it cant happen again.