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Old 09-29-2014, 08:04 AM   #161
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I have to admit, I was a little confused at first with that. So the characters, abilities and alignment were all generated? Nothing was chosen by Mazrim? Wouldn't the abilities kinda/have to fit with the character?
Boy, I have a huge learning curve ahead of me. Or waking up at 5am has muddled my brains. I hate jet lag.
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Old 09-29-2014, 08:19 AM   #162
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The names of the character and the description of their abilities is just flavour. Alignment etc is random, so it's entirely possible that the "good" characters are evil in this game and vice versa. It only makes sense tgis way, otherwise characters like Bowser would be voted out immediately based only on their name.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:17 AM   #163
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For tonight my vote remains with Bizaro as we are in no danger of a lynch and I'd like to hear some of his strategy on how to proceed.
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Fair enough. When I was a mafia member last game, I tried to work to get the town to lynch its own members. It seems logical that the mafia would be doing the same thing. So I think the most likely people to look at are those that vote at the "tipping point." The first vote or two is someone just throwing out a name (especially on day 1) but votes 3-5 are where voting for a person really gets momentum. The "run-up" votes are more of a mob mentality/paranoia. I think that's where it makes sense to look for mafia members in the early days.

Finally, I actually think voting for inactive people is a generally good strategy. I'm having a super ####ty and very busy week, and wouldn't probably have posted this much without the threat of getting voted out on the first day. I've been waiting for this game for months, so don't want to get voted out right away. I trust a couple of higher-content posts alay those concerns, but it probably wouldn't be unreasonable to run up votes on one or more of the other inactive posters, as it is likely to generate discussion and vote patterns which we can use later.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:22 AM   #164
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This is the current post list. As the current vote-leader I'm probably not the best person to pick someone else to vote for (my motives are pretty obviously self preservation) but it's not a bad strategy, imo.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:22 AM   #165
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Wow, that was a lot to read since last night. Going over it all it was interesting to see bizaro get mass piled there, does it tells us something? I believe him though when he says he is town, no good reason, just one of those feelings. I am still not buying squiggs though. This guy was nowhere until he was called out and has managed to deflect attention away. It also semed like he was trying to hard suddenly out of the blue although that can happen when you feel the noose coming. Still, I have to place a vote.

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Old 09-29-2014, 09:23 AM   #166
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Well that didn't work. Sorry, won't try to edit. Best way to view the post list is to just click the number of posts beside the thread title in the off topic forum viewing list. Apparently I'm technically inept at posting lists.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:26 AM   #167
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I am also going to let my vote stand for now.

I think the worst thing we can do on day one is lynch no one. We need a voting history to start looking for patterns going forward. We also have a chance to lynch a scum today. Not a good chance, but still a chance and if we let it pass by then overnight the scum will definitely lynch a townie and we will be in the same spot as day one with one fewer townie.
Doesn't day 1 last until we lynch someone?
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Doesn't day 1 last until we lynch someone?
Nope. Wednesday evening night will come and the dark side gets a night kill either way.
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unvote

Still think inactivity is one of the better ideas at this point in the game, but I do believe bizaro is town now and there's no reason for me to keep my vote if I do think he's one of the good guys.

I'll meet-a my dear brother later today to have some pasta at my mama's house and go hit-a some bricks and jump-a on some koopas afterwarda, maybe that'll give me an idea on how to proceed.
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Nope. Wednesday evening night will come and the dark side gets a night kill either way.
Ah. So if the deadline passes and we don't have the minimum (8) votes, there is no lynch and we proceed right to the night. Thanks for clarifying.
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Wow, that was a lot to read since last night. Going over it all it was interesting to see bizaro get mass piled there, does it tells us something? I believe him though when he says he is town, no good reason, just one of those feelings. I am still not buying squiggs though. This guy was nowhere until he was called out and has managed to deflect attention away. It also semed like he was trying to hard suddenly out of the blue although that can happen when you feel the noose coming. Still, I have to place a vote.

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It's true that my posts haven't added much (any) value, as most of them are to explain where I was and then explain my explanation. Chu hopes this can be put to rest soon. I haven't been able to figure anything out in the game yet, so instead of just posting random theories, I've kept quiet in that way. It's odd you believe bizarro and not pika.
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:02 AM   #172
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Mondays are difficult for me to post anything with substance as I just am on the phone. I can post my thoughts later tonight though when I am at my desk top.
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another quick thought on why putting pressure on inactive users could be helpful: unless Mazrim denied this and I missed it, I think there's also the possibility of a third party involved ... you know, like Alexander Medvedev in the first game. If that's the case, my guess is that this person would try to stay in the shadow at the beginning of the game and get more aggressive in later stages. We'll know for sure after night one if there's such a person involved, but if there is, we'd have a 2-for-1 disadvantage (1 mafia kill every night + 1 third party kill every night against 1 lynch every day). The quicker we'd find such a person, the better and applying pressure to users who don't add a lot of value in their posts surely wouldn't be the worst idea in that regard. I know that's a lot of IFs and maybe I'm totally out to lunch on this (I do hit-a a lot of bricks with-a my head, who know?), just thought I'd throw it out there.
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Where has Baxter been? Looks like they posted once about their character and then jumped on the Bizaro vote.

Hmmmcammo has been pretty silent too
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another quick thought on why putting pressure on inactive users could be helpful: unless Mazrim denied this and I missed it, I think there's also the possibility of a third party involved ... you know, like Alexander Medvedev in the first game. If that's the case, my guess is that this person would try to stay in the shadow at the beginning of the game and get more aggressive in later stages. We'll know for sure after night one if there's such a person involved, but if there is, we'd have a 2-for-1 disadvantage (1 mafia kill every night + 1 third party kill every night against 1 lynch every day). The quicker we'd find such a person, the better and applying pressure to users who don't add a lot of value in their posts surely wouldn't be the worst idea in that regard. I know that's a lot of IFs and maybe I'm totally out to lunch on this (I do hit-a a lot of bricks with-a my head, who know?), just thought I'd throw it out there.
I had this thought as well. In the first game the assassin made it pretty far before blowing his cover, so I am definitely concerned about this. The mafia and assassin can even up numbers pretty quickly if they can be efficient. One nice thing for us though is that the assassin might pick off a mafia member which would be really beneficial.
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Baxter stated that inactivity is not very telling of affiliation, but is also tied for the low post count. Pika thinks that's as good of reason as any to vote. If I'm wrong, as least it will provoke some discussion.

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Wow, that was a lot to read since last night. Going over it all it was interesting to see bizaro get mass piled there, does it tells us something? I believe him though when he says he is town, no good reason, just one of those feelings. I am still not buying squiggs though. This guy was nowhere until he was called out and has managed to deflect attention away. It also semed like he was trying to hard suddenly out of the blue although that can happen when you feel the noose coming. Still, I have to place a vote.
See, I think Bizaro has done the same thing including the trying to make up for lost time with meaningful posts. Yes, Bizaro got the mass pile on, but he also showed up just as the noose was getting pretty tight and when GGG suddenly changed their vote for him started getting a little pressure applied as to why he switched the vote (which it was only a couple minutes between me suggesting both GGG and Bizaro might be scum and Bizaro making an appearance).

The same reasoning and process of putting the pressure to say something and show up was used on both Squiggs and Bizaro. Squiggs was done and no one took the pressure off until he showed up. Bizaro had someone run to his aid and actually unvote him and try to deflect it to someone else before he shows up. That's where it becomes odd for me.
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I'm here, there just isn't a lot to discuss right now. Last game day 1 was a gong show and a bunch of people were coming up with theories based on no information at all (myself included). It would be nice if the same thing didn't happen this game which is why I'm not against voting off someone random first. Chances are pretty good we vote off a towns person anyway, but at least a random vote can't be swayed by the scum, and we could get lucky.
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at least a random vote can't be swayed by the scum, and we could get lucky.
sorry, but I don't understand this point at all. It doesn't really matter for the scum if the vote is chosen randomly or through activity or whatever. I'm sure it only matters to them that a townie is chosen and they can pile on the vote in any case.
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also, what would a "random" vote look like? Who decides it and who starts it? I somehow get the feeling that a game of "eenie meenie miney moe" won't work that well in a mafia game
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