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Old 03-04-2014, 02:59 PM   #161
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why? Markstrom has done nothing to back up the hype. In fact, he has been pretty bad this year. He could turn out to be a starter, but at this point, it's far from a sure thing. In any case, it's a significant downgrade in goal for a couple years. And Matthias is a 3rd liner.

And on top of it, they'll pay a portion of Luongos salary for 8 years.
You get rid of that terrible contract.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #162
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For Schneider and Lu the Canucks get a total of 14 NHL goals and a goalie with 10 career wins coming back #future #robbed?


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Old 03-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #163
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Compare the Canucks' goaltending situation to Calgary's, at the start of a rebuild. Flames have Ortio, Berra and Ramo. Canucks have Lack, Markstrom and Ericsson.

If you give me a choice I'll take the Vancouver group and run.
I don't think anyone was seriously saying our goaltending was better, most were green text kind of comments.

But to say Lack is a top 20 goalie at this point? Probably not.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #164
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Pretty bad deal for Vancouver.

#1 - the return is less than the rumour return last year (bad management)
#2 - they got back a forward whose depth at best and a goalie whose looking like he isn't developing.
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@TSN1050Radio If Gillis is gone, Tortorella is probably gone too --- James Duthie on the aftermath of this trade.

Duthie believes the benching during the Heritage Classic led to Luongo being traded
Interesting. Was Luongo benched because they were trading him, or trading him because he was benched (and possibly demanded a trade...again?)
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WTF holy ####. i did not see this coming at all
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #167
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@TSN1050Radio If Gillis is gone, Tortorella is probably gone too --- James Duthie on the aftermath of this trade.
Noooooooo
Gillis and Fonzie are perfect for them
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #168
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Canucks still face a recapture penalty if he retires before his contract runs out
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So wasn't it reported that the Canucks turned down Luongo for Kadri last year?
Canucks guys say Luongo turned it down

Leafs people say it was never offered
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:01 PM   #170
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As inexperienced as Lack is, I'm comfortable with him as starter. Are there more proven goalies out there to be had? Certainly but why trade for them given the direction the Canucks are now headed and with the D they still have?
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:01 PM   #171
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Guys named Mike who trade Roberto Luongo to the Panthers always seem smart in hindsight, right?
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@TSN1050Radio If Gillis is gone, Tortorella is probably gone too --- James Duthie on the aftermath of this trade.

Duthie believes the benching during the Heritage Classic led to Luongo being traded
I don't believe that, it makes far more sense that it was the other way around. The only explanation for benching him was that he was on the block, but no one gave it any credence because... well, duh. This has probably been in the works for a little while.
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Arguable Feaster got better return though even with the Flames waiting too late. Right now Berra's probably better than Markstrom and he was a throw in on the Bouwmeester trade.
Irrelevant comparison, what matters is what the Flames got versus what the Flames could have got if they swallowed their medicine.

In many ways Vancouver is having this rebuild forced onto them in ways that didn't become as acute for the Flames. I can't help but feel that if we had a disappointing season like the Canucks and our star got injured that we would have instead hunkered down and hoped for next season instead of just throwing the towel in on the core that was clearly not going to do anything further.

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look at the starters around the NHL

I would rather have Lack today than any of these teams starters

Calgary/Edmonton/Philly/NYI/Buffalo/Carolina/Washington/Winnipeg/Colorado

so that puts him 21st currently, and he only has 25 starts so there is upside
Speaking just from an Avs fan perspective, I'd much rather have the younger, more experienced goalie who has already gone through his growing pains in Varlamov.
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Gillis is so far doing what people wanted him to do, proactive reload rather than a bottom out rebuild like Calgary/Edmonton
That's pretty much what we were saying a couple years ago while desperately trying to salvage hope.

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Luongo needs to buy a little gift for Thomas before he arrives,

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Guys named Mike who trade Roberto Luongo to the Panthers always seem smart in hindsight, right?
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:01 PM   #178
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Canucks will still be on the hook for the cap recapture too if he retires I believe.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:01 PM   #179
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You would rather have Lack than Varlamov?? Ward? Holtby? Halak? Okay have fun with him as a starter.
I might even take Scrivens/Fasth over Lack/Markstrom.

Don't forget about Khudobin, who's been pretty good for Carolina and was good in relief for Boston last season.
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AND they keep salary of that contract, so they didn't shed themselves of all of it. Total failure if they keep 25% or more of it.
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