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Old 02-04-2014, 09:17 PM   #161
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Has anyone heard specifics on what the GMs are looking at?
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:24 PM   #162
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You keep claiming that, but the executives who made those decisions basically lost their jobs. If picking first overall was part of a master plan, why was Sherman shuffled aside, rather than rewarded?
Most teams at least pretend that drafting first overall is a disgrace.

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Good lord. You do realize their entire management team got the axe? They wouldn't risk their Jobs by tanking, AHL level defense = bottom feeder.
But they didnt risk their jobs. Sacco did, but while he lost his job he also still got paid and is still getting paid.

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Because he was a horrible GM; an unwitting scapegoat for what looked like a pretty blatant fix. In actual fact, I think that the timing of the personnel changes that coincided with the immediate turnaround actually illustrates this. The team got the player they wanted, and now is the time to start building towards a championship with all the right pieces in place.
I dont know how unwitting he was, but you're spot on. They took the circus season, tanked, got the player they wanted and are now moving forward.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:44 PM   #163
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Has anyone heard specifics on what the GMs are looking at?
Banning the Oilers from drafting in the top 10. That's it.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:58 PM   #164
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The proposal that I really, really like is the one from the NBA, the draft "wheel".
The NBA's wheel proposal is designed to benefit the large market teams that never suck bad enough to get the top overall pick. It is simply a very bad way of doing things if your goal is for the draft to help the league's weaker sisters.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:18 PM   #165
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I don't know if it's been mentioned but I don't think rejigging the draft has much to do with the Oilers, Panthers, etc, being repeat top draft pickers but to do with other GMs fondling their hands in anticipation of lucking out and getting to draft Connor McDavid.
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Watch the Phoeni....errr.... Arizona Coyotes get "randomly drawn" and draft McDavid.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:07 PM   #167
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Would it surprise anyone if the Oilers repeated this scerino again next year setting their sights on either Connor McDavid or Jack Eichel?

One 2015 Mock draft already has Edmonton picking Jack Eichel at 3rd with the Flames picking at the 8th spot. http://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2015/. Chances are if the Oilers are sucking part way through next season they are probably going to throw in the towel once again.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:00 PM   #168
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I wouldn't put too much stock in that mock draft, as long as Burke is here there is no way we are drafting a 5' 11" 180lb defenceman with the #6 pick.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:45 PM   #169
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I don't know if it's been mentioned but I don't think rejigging the draft has much to do with the Oilers, Panthers, etc, being repeat top draft pickers but to do with other GMs fondling their hands in anticipation of lucking out and getting to draft Connor McDavid.
This is right on! Its all about working the advantages for your team. Right now for the where the Flames are they should leave it as is, perhaps skew it a bit towards the 3-5 position but that is it....
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:47 PM   #170
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I don't know if it's been mentioned but I don't think rejigging the draft has much to do with the Oilers, Panthers, etc, being repeat top draft pickers but to do with other GMs fondling their hands in anticipation of lucking out and getting to draft Connor McDavid.
And good for them, who can blame them.

Imagine being one of the half dozen bad teams that can't or won't take their fans for granted for a year or 3, and actually tries to be competitive.

It must be super frustrating for a team like Nashville that eats a big contract for weber, tries to put a decent product out, and gets screwed by Calgary and Edmonton and Colorado who say fata it, drag down everybody's revenues, and get a better pick to boot.
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Old 02-06-2014, 12:59 PM   #171
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I wouldn't feel too sorry for Nashville. They went into a bit of a swoon late last season and ended up with Seth Jones - probably a better prospect than any the Panthers have drafted in a decade of suckage.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:41 AM   #172
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How do you guys feel about a system where once a team is officially eliminated from the playoffs, their record counts towards their draft position in a positive way?

To qualify for this system a team must be eliminated with at least 5 games remaining. The last 15 games count towards their draft position. The big difference between this and the current system is that better records in the last 15 games result in a higher draft pick.

I think it would add a bit of excitement since non-playoff teams will be playing for a better draft pick. It is closest North American pro sports can get to a relegation system in terms of giving crappy teams something to play for.

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Lets say Edmonton is eliminated with 11 games remaining. They have a record of 3-10-2 in their last 15. They would not be awarded a higher draft pick for tanking (intentional or otherwise).

Lets say Calgary is eliminated with 8 games remaining. They have a record of 6-6-3 in their last 15. Calgary would get a higher draft pick than Edmonton.

Lets say Vancouver is eliminated with 4 games remaining. They don't qualify for the top draft pick system and get a draft pick based on the current system.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:42 PM   #173
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As long as they change it so that Edmonton is never allowed to pick first overall ever again.
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