Yes, your arrogance, which is completely insufferable in these threads.
In case you missed it - and given your overt inferiority complex that leads you to hate all things Calgary Hitmen, you did - both teams gave up five legitimate goals, and both teams had stretches of very poor play. You could just as easily argue that if Kootenay had played a little better and given up one fewer goal, that they would have walked out with a legitimate victory rather than a tainted one.
Both teams were robbed of a legitimate result. That cheapens the game and the league significantly. This game was decided by the incompetence of an off-ice official. That is not something anyone with the slightest bit of self-respect should be defending.
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2008-2009 WHL Finals....
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And Bloodhoof with a cheap elbow to the head nowhere near the puck, no call.
Guess Savage and Kirk are playing to the home crowd tonight.
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Funny how Savage misses elbows to the head, but sees high sticks...
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Another elbow to the head by a Kelowna player that conveinently is ignored.
Savage remains the worst referee in hockey, at any level.
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Clutch and grab fest now. Kelowna knows they can do anything they want without getting called.
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That's WHL officiating for you. They know they blew it late in the second, so they invent a penalty to try and make up for it. Lowry was right - they haven't called that all night.
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Makes up for game 3, when the referees were in Kelowna's pocket.
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Did you really just register to cry about the referees?
/ignore list for the troll.
Ironic.
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And you really need to stop crying long enough to go change your diaper. Savage and Kirk were calling phantom penalties all night in favour of Kelowna. It isn't the officials fault that Kelowna's powerplay is as impotent as an old man who's Viagra perscription has run out.
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Loved the act though. You could practically see the trainer saying "stay down, we might get a major out of this!"
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And Savage with a terrible slashing call on Carson McMillan...
And Bloodhoff gets away with a trip on the PP, lol.
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Weak call, but there isn't a single person who's ever seen a WHL game that would expect Savage to do anything but make himself the centre of the game. Stupid, lazy, sloppy defence by Plante put him in a position to take that penalty
2009/2010 Playoffs: Calgary loses game 1 to Moose Jaw.....
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That was, without a doubt, the worst officiated hockey game I have ever seen in my life. Absolutely disgusting. Moose Jaw's first three goals were all off phantom penalties, and their fourth was an amazing sequence. A Hitmen player gets high sticked in the face, right in front of the net. Both referees see it, both referees ignore it. They realized immediately though that their incompetence directly created a scoring chance with an open net. They tried to cover up their error by inexplicably blowing the whistle right before the puck went in. However, instead of a powerplay and faceoff in Moose Jaw's end, they put the faceoff deep in Calgary's end - which was stupid, as there was no possible way that could happen. We never touched the puck, so the only possible way the whistle could have gone was on something Moose Jaw did. End result, they get a goal anyway, right off the draw.
After that, Cowley and Thompson realized just how obvious their bias was and completely flipped the other way. They started calling everything the Warriors did and ignored Calgary's infraction. But four freebies to Moose Jaw was too much, and all the credit in the world has to go to Bosch, who was the only Warrior worth anything tonight.
It is insulting that the WHL asked a single fan to pay for that debacle. Cowley and Thompson should be fired.
Game 2 and rest of series..
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Ahaha. It's the Chris Savage show again. Two dives that Brent Sopel would call embarrassing and the WHL's village idiot falls for both.
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I don't see how you can call being outshot 50-16 in the first game despite having the refs in their back pocket for the first two periods "snuffing us out perfectly". Even last night, most of our problems were self inflicted. Too much poor passing, and too many passengers on the ice. And, as I said, we're missing wide open shots that we buried during the season. That has absolutely nothing to do with how Moose Jaw is playing.
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Only heard about 10 minutes of the first and 10 minutes of the third, but I did hear a lot of "there's a high hit from Moose Jaw, no call" and "there's a late hit from Moose Jaw, no call" out of Curle. Especially late in the third it sounded like the Warriors chose to behave like a goonshow. Hopefully their frustration continues into tonight.
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I have no doubt that the Hitmen will come out with a ton of fire in their bellies tonight. As has been the case the whole series, it will hinge on whether Jones outduels Bosch, and on what officiating standard we get.
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Yes. Moose Jaw didn't score a single goal that game without the direct aid of a phantom penalty or an ignored high stick. It was only after their bias was so exposed that they tried to "even it up". All the credit in the world to Bosch, but Moose Jaw only wins because of the zebras.
Refs look like they will be a problem again tonight. Another penalty to Calgary for hitting a Moose Jaw nancy boy, followed by a weak even up call by the other ref.
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Fing hell. Wilson goes to throw a hip check, the Warrior tries to jump out of the way, they STILL make contact hip to hip, and Thiessen invents a clipping penalty. Moose Jaw gets another free goal on another phantom penalty.
Sorry dude, Moose Jaw isn't where they re because they have earned it. They are here because of crooked officiating.
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Broda's non-goal was a tough call. Bosch stopped the puck with a pad that was in the net. Thiessen was simply on the wrong side of the net, so he couldn't see the puck in the net, and since it was under the goalie's pad, it was hidden from the cameras. The officials did make the right call under the circumstances, even if logic says the puck was in.
The interesting part of Shattock's penalty was how the Hitmen refused to let the officials dictate how they were going to play the game. They threw at least ten hits just as big as that one, not one of which was called. Bonnet called that first penalty exclusively because of LOUD NOISES!
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Aaaand the Hitmen get screwed out of a fourth goal by a quick whistle on a puck that was still wide open. ugh.
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Just listening. But frankly, if Nyren is scoring unassisted, I'm inclined to accept it was a weak goal.
And apparently Moose Jaw gets to run Jones over without a call. Naturally, the stripes suddenly saw a Calgary infraction right after. Long five on three for Moose Jaw.
...And they score. Figures.
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4-3 now.
Christ, it is embarrassing just how badly the officials want Moose Jaw to win. Yet again, the referees changing the game for the Warriors.
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f you don't like it, get lost.
When we've taken two goaltender interference penalties already, and the officials willingly IGNORE our goalie getting RUN OVER, choosing instead to call Calgary again to turn a four on four into a five on three, then yes, the f'ing officials are dictating the outcome of the game.
If they call a neutral game, it's still 4-1. And that is notwithstanding the fact that they cost Calgary another goal with a remarkably quick whistle.
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Lower level is not a synonym for biased. And this crap is biased.
If both teams are playing under the same rule book, it sure isn't a 4-3 game, so your argument is irrelevant. Not many teams can overcome a 7 against 4/5 disadvantage.
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The number of clean hits that have been penalized has been a joke. The hip check that somehow magically became clipping in game five being a prime example. It's not the number of calls, its what is made and when.
Anyway, Cowan with a flipping huge goal early in the third!
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lol. An ignored penalty finally helped us. Beach gets checked to the head from behind, but Calgary scores anyway after it was ignored.
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Moose Jaw playing some mighty dirty hockey so far. Three blatant checks from behind, and that minor should have been a major. Brutal hit.
Warriors just can't keep up to Calgary so far. If not for Bosch, we probably have five instead of three.
Hitmen move on vs Moose Jaw. Play Med Hat next round. Hitmen losing game 3:
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ROFL. Ashim gets drilled square from behind, but these clowns give Calgary a penalty. What a f'ing joke.
...And the referees hand Medicine Hat a goal.
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ndeed. But lets see the Tigers earn their offence with their play. It shouldn't be handed to them on a silver platter.
Any referee that choses to ignore a check from behind like that should summarily lose his job. That is a total disregard for the welfare of a player.
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Hahaha Cowan.
How Isherwood doesn't get a penalty too is bizarre though.
Calgary plays Brandon, Calgary wins on a controversial 5 on 3 in OT...
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Herman hesitated, but he made the right call there. If it was a cheap little hook or if a Hitmen player went down easy on a small bump to set that two man advantage up, I would be agreeing with you wholeheartedly. That was a wicked overhand chop that hit an opponent in the head. You HAVE to call things like that because it is incredibly dangerous. Player safety is paramount, and Urbom needs to know better.
As it is, if it was the first period and Urbom gets in the ref's face like that, he's getting a misconduct as well. He should count himself lucky he didn't get one there.
No conspiracy there interestingly enough.
2009/2010 Memorial Cup, losing to Brandon in the Semi's:
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And a completely uncalled Brandon hook turns into a Wheat Kings scoring chance. Ugh. Not going to get the calls when you aren't trying very hard though.
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If the refs don't call that then you know they definitely want Brandon to win.
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Good call stripes. You hand them four PPs in a row then let them get away with a leap into our goalie long after the whistle. What a bloody joke.
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Oh Nyren you idiot! You were right in the slot! What are you passing for? Even so, Great shot by Kozun and a better save by De Serres.
How many bloody infractions are the refs going to let Brandon get away with here?
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Ha Ha! F you refs! We'll just score even strength!
2011-2012-Wheat Kings tie the series vs Brandon 1-1:
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A lot of stupid penalties, really. Brandon clearly thinks that they are going to win via intimidation. It didn't work. They couldn't even back Virtanen down despite several dirty hits. And once Calgary got up 3-0, the Wheat Kings melted right down. Selfish penalties, numerous hits to the head and frankly, they embarrassed themselves.
Pretty sad result for Brandon, as I thought they were unlucky not to have the lead after one. But after that performance, I hope the Hitmen put them away fast. Preferably before one of their meatheads costs us another injury or two.
Just going through some of the old WHL playoff threads I could find....
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I was at the game last night, and even though the hitmen were sub-par the first 2 periods, there were a lot of officiating decisions going the way of Kootenay. Missed hooking and crosschecking calls, and pretty much every close call going to the Ice. First 2 periods guys like Lang, Peterson, Padakin looked good up front, the rest were patchy at best. A few of the fans near me were speculating that Virtanen hurt his hand in that fight a few games ago, as he has been shuttled down to lower lines and less icetime in the past few games.
That call on the goal at "19:59" of period 2 was blown. The goal judge jumped the gun. The clock was at 0.0 before anyone else reacted. The refs on the ice, you could tell, once that replay went up on the jumbotron, knew what the fan reaction would be, but since it was called a goal, the guys upstairs have to overrule. If they claim the official clock did not match the video clock, then they can't overrule. The longer it went on, the more we all had a sinking feeling that they would give the goal, and with all the borderline and missed penalties, everyone was screaming conspiracy
3rd period was awesome - hitmen started making checks, first times all game they got to Reinhart, but it was too late
So the goal judge turned on the light before the goal was scored, and the upstairs officials saw that time had expired but decided to allow the goal anyway?
The evidence, as it stands, says yes.
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You need to focus the blame where it belongs - on your team which has been getting outclassed and is choking away a 100-point season.
The fact that the Hitmen are throwing away their season is immaterial to the fact that the difference in last night's game was a horrendously blown call by an off-ice official. There is no amount of deflecting you and Trojan can attempt that overcomes this point.
That's insane. It's much more reasonable to assume the clocks weren't synced and that the official game clock still had time left hence the red light coming on.
To assume conspiracy is even funnier coming from a Hitmen fan as they have gotten breaks from the league for years now.
Your level of butthurt is reaching Jesse834/Drake levels. The Hitmen put themselves into that position by
a) giving up an odd man rush in the final seconds
b) not covering the Reinhart line all game
c) allowing five other goals
Not going to win in the playoffs doing those things. No deflecting, just facts.
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Blown calls and bad offciating are a part of the game. To use it as an excuse for why we lost or are down in the series is a cop out IMO. If you can't play 60 minutes of hockey and or keep the oppositions star players in check, you shouldn't be surprised at why we are down 3-2 in games to the ice.
The fact we were down by 2-3 goals (depending on how you view the call) is not the place the Hitmen should have been in. A pivotal game in the series and they fail to show up for 60 minutes? Sorry, but they get no sympathy from me.
Goals scored after a period ends are not part of the game.
I understand what your saying about the Hitmen needing to play better, etc. But that should be thrown out the window in a situation like this.
That's insane. It's much more reasonable to assume the clocks weren't synced and that the official game clock still had time left hence the red light coming on.
To assume conspiracy is even funnier coming from a Hitmen fan as they have gotten breaks from the league for years now.
Your level of butthurt is reaching Jesse834/Drake levels. The Hitmen put themselves into that position by
a) giving up an odd man rush in the final seconds
b) not covering the Reinhart line all game
c) allowing five other goals
Not going to win in the playoffs doing those things. No deflecting, just facts.
You're also not going to win in the playoffs when goals are allowed after a period ends.
To assume conspiracy is even funnier coming from a Hitmen fan as they have gotten breaks from the league for years now.
There zero chance the league is doing any there other than everything they can to help the Hitmen in that situation.
Pretty shocking they got the call right and didn't just award the game to the Hitmen in that situation. They certainly have handed them enough games over the years.
2008-2009 WHL Finals....
Ironic. 2009/2010 Playoffs: Calgary loses game 1 to Moose Jaw..... Game 2 and rest of series.. Hitmen move on vs Moose Jaw. Play Med Hat next round. Hitmen losing game 3:
Calgary plays Brandon, Calgary wins on a controversial 5 on 3 in OT...
No conspiracy there interestingly enough.
2009/2010 Memorial Cup, losing to Brandon in the Semi's: 2011-2012-Wheat Kings tie the series vs Brandon 1-1:
Just going through some of the old WHL playoff threads I could find....
That's funny. Actually I don't know what's funnier, the effort you put into finding all those quotes, or Resolute going crazy.
It's especially humourous that both sides posting here think there is a conspiracy going on, one to hurt the Hitmen and one to help them. Often people say the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In this case, I think the truth lies exactly in the middle, that there is no conspiracy either way.
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That's insane. It's much more reasonable to assume the clocks weren't synced and that the official game clock still had time left hence the red light coming on.
Once again, even if you accept the WHL's claims, there was not enough time on the clock from the point that the puck went in for a goal judge to recognize that a goal had been scored and push the button. Simple logic argues that in either scenario, the goal judge jumped the gun. It is not reasonable to assume the WHL hires goal judges with superhuman reaction times.
After that, I have video evidence that the clock expired before the puck went in. You have only the word of an organization with egg on its face that an entirely different clock exists and showed something else. Lacking any hard evidence from the league that this is the case, one must judge based on what one can see.
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To assume conspiracy is even funnier coming from a Hitmen fan as they have gotten breaks from the league for years now.
You are assuming conspiracy. I am arguing incompetence.
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Your level of butthurt is reaching Jesse834/Drake levels. The Hitmen put themselves into that position by
a) giving up an odd man rush in the final seconds
b) not covering the Reinhart line all game
c) allowing five other goals
Not going to win in the playoffs doing those things. No deflecting, just facts.
Nope, the Hitmen aren't going to win a playoff series doing these things. But these things are irrelevant to the fact a colossal error made by an off-ice official determined the outcome of the game.
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Nope, the Hitmen aren't going to win a playoff series doing these things. But these things are irrelevant to the fact a colossal error made by an off-ice official determined the outcome of the game.
Craptacular play by the Hitmen determined the outcome. It's sour grapes to use bad officiating as an excuse.
That's funny. Actually I don't know what's funnier, the effort you put into finding all those quotes, or Resolute going crazy.
It's especially humourous that both sides posting here think there is a conspiracy going on, one to hurt the Hitmen and one to help them. Often people say the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In this case, I think the truth lies exactly in the middle, that there is no conspiracy either way.
Ya funny that Resolute finally gets called out for blaming the refs and league personnel every chance he gets. Funny that it took 20 minutes to call him out for his beligerent posting everytime the hitmen fall behind a series. Where is the conspiracy? Why is the leagues explanation not enough?
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Rockets have had another pretty major misfortune in the playoffs, after losing their captain Sissons and half their d last year, have lost their leading scorer Myles Bell, no confirmation on severity but on crutches in the stands tonight, not looking good.
Ya funny that Resolute finally gets called out for blaming the refs and league personnel every chance he gets. Funny that it took 20 minutes to call him out for his beligerent posting everytime the hitmen fall behind a series. Where is the conspiracy? Why is the leagues explanation not enough?
Because we have video evidence that directly contradicts the WHL's claims. If they wish to release the video they claim exists, then we can properly judge. Until then, it is the video we have vs. a league trying to dance around an embarrassing mistake.
And Dion, you should probably just stick to posting lame pictures.
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Because we have video evidence that directly contradicts the WHL's claims. If they wish to release the video they claim exists, then we can properly judge. Until then, it is the video we have vs. a league trying to dance around an embarrassing mistake.
And Dion, you should probably just stick to posting lame pictures.
Got the response I was expecting from you. Your reputation hasn't changed much.
No, you make it a habit to beg for thanks by trying to be oh-so-funny with pictures or by repeating other people's opinions after they appear to be somewhat popular.
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No, you make it a habit to beg for thanks by trying to be oh-so-funny with pictures or by repeating other people's opinions after they appear to be somewhat popular.
My opinion of you stands. A shame really as I suspect you're a nice person in real life.
