Flames/Heat Line-Up - 2013-14

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by blah blah

I don't think Knight needs to prove something at the AHL level if he wins an NHL spot out of camp. Nobody is handing him a spot but many are projecting he'll earn it. You may not be keen on NCAA guys but Knight has size and doesn't seem to shy away from using it, is good at faceoffs, and has a very well-rounded game. Unlike so many NCAA prospects he's not a one-dimensional guy who has to light it up offensively to fit onto an NHL roster. People hoping he can transition to the NHL better than most NCAA players are doing so with good reason in my opinion.

Just to add to that, Knight is one of the older prospects in the cupboard. Having a big 22 year old rookie isn't going to hurt any team's bottom 6 (third line specifically) and because he is more physically developed than most 18 year old rookies there isn't a huge risk to his health by rushing him.

Also, its not like making this year's Flames roster is going to be all that special. Young players are expected to be on the roster of a team in a rebuild and we want them to be there to learn from all these "strong character veterans" we want to act as mentors.

If Monahan does not make the team this year then I would like to see Backlund, Stajan and Knight being rotated through the top 3 lines. If Monahan does make the team then I would still like to see a rotation but with Monahan being a bit more sheltered (ie. staying off the first line).

[SeanCharles]

I think the kids will make the team:

Glencross-Backlund-Cammalleri
Baertschi-Monahan-Hudler
Galiardi-Stajan-Stempniak
Bouma-Knight-Jones
McGrattan/Horak


Giordano-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Butler-OBrien
Breen


Trade Jackman.


Jones can move up the lineup if he plays well.


After the Trade Deadline things will look different as Stajan, Stempniak and Cammalleri will probably all be traded. This will open up more time for Horak and Knight.


Glencross-Backlund-Hudler
Baertschi-Monahan-Jones
Galiardi-Knight-Horak
Bouma-B.Jones-McGrattan
Reinhart


Giordano-Brodie
Russell-Wideman
Butler-OBrien
Breen-Cundari

[wingmaker]

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The after trade deadline roster above looks pretty much how I see it panning out, as well. Except there is no way Blair Jones jumps ahead of Reinhart. Hartley made that pretty clear last year.

Also, I think one of the vet defensemen gets traded. Probably Butler, Russell, or Wideman.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by wingmaker

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The after trade deadline roster above looks pretty much how I see it panning out, as well. Except there is no way Blair Jones jumps ahead of Reinhart. Hartley made that pretty clear last year.

Also, I think one of the vet defensemen gets traded. Probably Butler, Russell, or Wideman.

My guess is that this is Butlers last year on the flames. He is a UFA after this season and my bet is that he is traded at the deadline. Not sure they will be able to trade Russel. Have to think that the Blues tried last year when they acquired 2 d-men at the deadline.

[Ozy_Flame]

Didn't backread this thread, but as an FYI, Mike Testwuide signed in the Japanese league with Anyang Halla. Ouch.

[StrykerSteve]

If Monahan makes the team... this is the lineup I forsee by the trade deadline.

FORWARDS
Sven Baertschi ($1.425m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
Jiri Hudler ($4.000m) / Sean Monahan ($1.775m) / T.J. Galiardi ($1.250m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Corban Knight ($3.750m) / Roman Horak ($0.805m)
Tim Jackman ($0.613m) / Lance Bouma ($0.578m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dennis Wideman ($5.250m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Shane O'Brien ($2.000m)
Chris Butler ($1.700m) / Kris Russell ($1.500m)
Derek Smith ($0.775m) /
GOALTENDERS
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.925m)

Size, skill and energy on every line.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

My guess is that this is Butlers last year on the flames. He is a UFA after this season and my bet is that he is traded at the deadline. Not sure they will be able to trade Russel. Have to think that the Blues tried last year when they acquired 2 d-men at the deadline.

I dont think they tried to trade Russell. When you are a team like St. Louis expecting a playoff run you stack up, especially on defence.

In any long playoff run anywhere from 8-10 dman I would expect to see get into the lineup. In the 04 run we had Montador and Commodore in the same game... I remember alot of tense moments when those two would come on the ice haha.

Hitchcock also really likes the player. The GM wanted older vets so Russell was the odd man out.

I think he will be a good addition to our team, a 2nd Brodie almost....

[#-3]

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In the '04 playoffs we had 1 game with Commodore, Montador and a prospect (I think it was Evans or something) who got all of 2 shifts.

edit. http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...fs?mobile=true
My bad they all played in two games, and only 1 #### the game i was thinking of.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Blair Jones is 26 years old, has 7 seasons of pro hockey under his belt as apart of 2 weaker organizations and how many full NHL seasons does he have under his belt? Nada, nil, zero, zilch, NONE.

Calling him an NHL player is a huge stretch. A borderline NHLer sure, but for Christ sake the guy has averaged fewer than 20 games in the NHL per pro season despite playing 20 games in the NHL as a first year pro.

He has been given every opportunity in the world to become a full-time NHL player and he has failed miserably.

Blair Jones is one of Feaster's biggest drafting success stories.

Feaster's draft record in Tampa is appalling.

[Vulcan]

Yeah, I heard Feaster complaining he kept drafting big, tough, defensive defencemen.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

If Monahan makes the team... this is the lineup I forsee by the trade deadline.

FORWARDS
Sven Baertschi ($1.425m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
Jiri Hudler ($4.000m) / Sean Monahan ($1.775m) / T.J. Galiardi ($1.250m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Corban Knight ($3.750m) / Roman Horak ($0.805m)
Tim Jackman ($0.613m) / Lance Bouma ($0.578m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.750m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dennis Wideman ($5.250m) / Mark Giordano ($4.020m)
T.J. Brodie ($2.125m) / Shane O'Brien ($2.000m)
Chris Butler ($1.700m) / Kris Russell ($1.500m)
Derek Smith ($0.775m) /
GOALTENDERS
Karri Ramo ($2.750m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.925m)

Size, skill and energy on every line.

Overall, I like the jist of that lineup. I do not agree with some of the lines (Glencross is more likely to get 1st line minutes than 3rd line on that roster) but I would love to see those players there. Also, there is room for two more scratched players to make a full roster since you only have 12 forwards and 7 D. Throw Reinhart and Cundari in there.

Personally, I would rather see a couple more trades than just Stempniak, Stajan and Cammalleri. I hope to see MacDonald shipped out to make way for Ramo / Berra. Similarly, I would be okay with Jackman and SOB being shipped out to make room for guy Breen on the backend and maybe someone like Nemisz on the 4th line.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by #-3

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In the '04 playoffs we had 1 game with Commodore, Montador and a prospect (I think it was Evans or something) who got all of 2 shifts.

edit. http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...fs?mobile=true
My bad they all played in two games, and only 1 #### the game i was thinking of.

Commodore and Montador both played 20 games in the 04 run. I'm still surprised we unofficially won the cup. Just goes to show chemistry and character go a long way in sucess.

Seems like we are trying to build that again here, this time with some more young skill..

[David Struch]

2013/14 Flames

Cammalleri - Backlund - Jones
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Baertschi - Monahan - Stempniak
Jackman - Galiardi - Mcgrattan

Giordano - Wideman
Brodie - Russell
O'Brien - Butler

Ramo
McDonald

2013/14 Heat/Aces

Byron - Street - Nemisz
Knight - Jooris - Horak
Granlund - Reinhart - Hanowski
Elson - Bouma - Ferland
Bancks - Begin - Jones
Howse - Eddy

Cundari - Sielof
Breen - Wotherspoon
Billins - Ramage
Culkin - MacKenzie
Smith - Martin

Berra
Brossoit
Ortio

[Enoch Root]

The Flames have been dead last in face-offs the last two seasons and they just acquired the guy who led the NCAA in FOs last year. I highly doubt they will have him playing LW in Abby.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Flames have been dead last in face-offs the last two seasons and they just acquired the guy who led the NCAA in FOs last year. I highly doubt they will have him playing LW in Abby.

Agreed.
In addition to that he is a right handed shot.

[stemit14]

Flames:

Cammalleri - backlund - stempniak
Baertschi - stajan - hudler
Glencross - Monahan - jones
Galiardi - knight - jackman

Brodie - giordano
Wideman - butler
Obrian - cundari
Breen

Kari ramo
Joey McDonald

[stemit14]

Make that Russell instead of butler in my last post and put obtain as the extra dman instead if breen