10-03-2014, 12:28 PM
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#161
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
How do you know how this will affect him in the future?
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Because it was sex, and it was consensual? As the kid has already said. Were you there? do you have other information that we don't?
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10-03-2014, 12:32 PM
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#162
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Originally Posted by Arya Stark
Because it was sex, and it was consensual? As the kid has already said. Were you there? do you have other information that we don't?
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Consensual sex can not occur in that situation based on Canadian law.
As I said I don't know about the particular state in which this occured.
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10-03-2014, 04:00 PM
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#163
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Thor, what is the age of consent in Iceland, both in position of power situations and non-position of power situations?
When is an individual considered an adult in Iceland?
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Well 20 years ago I would have argued, a 16 yr old was unable to consent. But things have changed a lot. And yes in Iceland both sides receive the same response, my cousin, her 15yr old daughter hooked up with her 37 yr old teacher, the are still together 17 yrs later.
No 20yr prison sentence for him, no public shame. But hey, thats Iceland, we are not this sex fearing people, we actually treat our teenagers like they might be ready to have sex, SHOCKING, I know, because we all had sex at 18 am I right Fellas!
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10-03-2014, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Well 20 years ago I would have argued, a 16 yr old was unable to consent. But things have changed a lot. And yes in Iceland both sides receive the same response, my cousin, her 15yr old daughter hooked up with her 37 yr old teacher, the are still together 17 yrs later.
No 20yr prison sentence for him, no public shame. But hey, thats Iceland, we are not this sex fearing people, we actually treat our teenagers like they might be ready to have sex, SHOCKING, I know, because we all had sex at 18 am I right Fellas!
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10-03-2014, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Well 20 years ago I would have argued, a 16 yr old was unable to consent. But things have changed a lot. And yes in Iceland both sides receive the same response, my cousin, her 15yr old daughter hooked up with her 37 yr old teacher, the are still together 17 yrs later.
No 20yr prison sentence for him, no public shame. But hey, thats Iceland, we are not this sex fearing people, we actually treat our teenagers like they might be ready to have sex, SHOCKING, I know, because we all had sex at 18 am I right Fellas!
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Ummm what?
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10-03-2014, 04:22 PM
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I bet this guy is going to suffer a lot more psychological damage from knowing that the two teachers are going to become criminals over this because he was bragging about it.
As it has already been pointed out, if they weren't teachers at his school, it would have been legal to begin with. That two year window of 'position of trust' is reasonable, but if the "victim" is trying to tell police that it was consensual, there should be no charges.
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10-03-2014, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
No 20yr prison sentence for him, no public shame. But hey, thats Iceland, we are not this sex fearing people, we actually treat our teenagers like they might be ready to have sex, SHOCKING, I know, because we all had sex at 18 am I right Fellas!
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North American society is very odd in that it is very sexually repressive yet society is constantly bombarded with messages about representing/displaying sexuality (overly sexualized.)
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10-03-2014, 04:23 PM
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#168
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wow we turn a thread about a 16 year old boy nailing two teachers into some discussion about morality.
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10-03-2014, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Well 20 years ago I would have argued, a 16 yr old was unable to consent. But things have changed a lot. And yes in Iceland both sides receive the same response, my cousin, her 15yr old daughter hooked up with her 37 yr old teacher, the are still together 17 yrs later.
No 20yr prison sentence for him, no public shame. But hey, thats Iceland, we are not this sex fearing people, we actually treat our teenagers like they might be ready to have sex, SHOCKING, I know, because we all had sex at 18 am I right Fellas!
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You realize you're talking about a country in Canada whose age of consent was 14 until not too long ago, right? Seems silly to build this up into an example of society's fear of teenagers having sex.
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10-03-2014, 04:34 PM
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Yet a few examples of that old prudish, male dominated sexual perversion crap on display..... People are hyper sensitive now, and its sad, because ultimately its religion to blame...
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10-03-2014, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PIMking
wow we turn a thread about a 16 year old boy nailing two teachers into some discussion about morality.
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Calgarypuck: turning threads about 16 year old boys nailing 2 teachers into discussions about morality since 2014.
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10-03-2014, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 4X4
As it has already been pointed out, if they weren't teachers at his school, it would have been legal to begin with. That two year window of 'position of trust' is reasonable, but if the "victim" is trying to tell police that it was consensual, there should be no charges.
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In Louisiana, they would have faced the same charges even if they weren't teachers.
He's under 17 and they are more than 4 years older than he is, so it's still against the law there: http://www.legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=78672
When a teacher is involved, it's a crime until the student is 21 years-old if there's at least a 4-year age difference and they aren't married: http://www.legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=451834
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10-03-2014, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by flylock shox
Calgarypuck: turning threads about 16 year old boys nailing 2 teachers into discussions about morality since 2000.
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10-03-2014, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Well 20 years ago I would have argued, a 16 yr old was unable to consent. But things have changed a lot. And yes in Iceland both sides receive the same response, my cousin, her 15yr old daughter hooked up with her 37 yr old teacher, the are still together 17 yrs later.
No 20yr prison sentence for him, no public shame. But hey, thats Iceland, we are not this sex fearing people, we actually treat our teenagers like they might be ready to have sex, SHOCKING, I know, because we all had sex at 18 am I right Fellas!
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I actually disagree about the age of consent getting older.
Up until recently girls who were 15 years old were getting married, often to older men. If anything, the age of consent is increasing.
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10-03-2014, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by getbak
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Jeez. Those Yanks sure like turning their citizens into criminals, eh? Good thing they didn't get caught with a joint, or they'd all be drug felons as well.
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10-03-2014, 05:22 PM
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#176
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by #22
It's not cheating because it's your dog
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10-03-2014, 08:09 PM
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There is often more than just sex going on when these things happen. Often the older woman is using it as a means to manipulate the male and there is often mental and psychological abuse that goes along with it.
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10-03-2014, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
There is often more than just sex going on when these things happen. Often the older woman is using it as a means to manipulate the male and there is often mental and psychological abuse that goes along with it.
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Ah, true, but that pretty much happens in all sexual relationships, older woman or not.
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10-03-2014, 09:24 PM
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#179
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Consensual sex can not occur in that situation based on Canadian law.
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It can be consensual, the law just doesn't recognize it as such - effectively the legal definition does not match the standard definition.
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06-01-2016, 11:47 AM
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#180
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http://www.click2houston.com/news/mi...uthorities-say
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Vera said the student's parents not only knew about the relationship, they approved of it and allowed the teen to spend the night at Vera's home in Spring, where they engaged in sex on a regular basis, according to court documents. She told an investigator that she would drop him off at home in the morning so he could catch the bus to Stovall Middle School, prosecutors said.
Vera told an officer that the school had an open house in October, when she met the student's parents. After the open house, Vera went to the student's home and was introduced as his girlfriend to his parents. According to the report, Vera said the parents were accepting of their relationship and she was invited to family gatherings.
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