[Rumour] Iginla Trade Talk: Iginla scratched from CGY Vs. COL

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by RT14

I don't. If we're not getting anything back that has even a remote chance of becoming a top player down the road, what is the point? A trade of our franchise player is supposed to kick start a rebuild here. A few mediocre pieces does not kick start anything.

IMO, at least one of the 2 or 3 pieces we get back will have top potential. Late 1st, blue chip prospect, top 6 forward. Otherwise there's no point.

I have a feeling we're just having an issue with semantics here. When I said a good (not great) prospect I mean it's unlikely any teams top 2 or 3 prospects are going to be in the deal. The Pens, for example, probably won't give up Bennett or Morrow. Boston probably won't give up Hamilton or Subban. Spooner might be a reach as well. You're more likely to get a prospect like Maata or Khoklachev (sp?) instead. Those two would still be head and shoulders above the majority of players in our system, but I wouldn't call them "blue-chip" prospects.

[Finegrind]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I only read the first 3 pages of this thread, but if this rumour is true, i am surprised that some of you are happy that Vancouver or NY Rangers are not on the list. For me i want as many teams on that list as possible. That does not mean they have to trade him to Vancouver but it could help with leverage against other teams. I wish the list was 10 -15 teams deep.

This may the best post in this thread.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

I'm a huge Flames fan, and I will admit that I am also a fan of Iginla period. Somewhere over the course of the last 18 years he's turned me into a fan of his that extends beyond the jersey. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Flames fan first, but I also cheer for Iggy to succeed.

Regardless of the angle you take, Flames fan or Iggy fan, it will be a good thing if he gets traded. Don't get me wrong, a very sad day because it will be the end of a great era, but unfortunately one that will end with neither the Flames or Iggy accomplishing their goal of a cup in Calgary. But, a good day for both Flames and Iggy fans. For the Flames, getting the best return they can for Iggy is the right new start for this team, and for Iggy, a chance to reach his goal of a cup. It is truly a win win situation for both. Unfortunately, there is no longer synergy in the Flames / Iggy relationship, as neither can accomplish there goals if they stay together.

I will cheer for Iggy to win a cup this year, and be excited for the fresh start and the building of a new chance at the cup in Calgary.

[pylon]

I hope it's Boston.

I like Boston.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Here is a thread from 3 years ago with a number of posters wanting Iginla traded then

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=89184

It is something that a lot of true Calgary Flames fans have wanted to see happen for a number of years.

So now 40 or 50 people is "a lot"?

Alrighty then.

The average fanon the street IMO never wanted to see this happen...ever. With good reason too.

The fact it has to happen at this point though, is still nothing to celebrate and i find it very confusing to suggest otherwise. The team will NOT be better without him. Hopefully, and its only hope at this point, Feaster doesnt completely screw things up on the return..something im not holding my breath on after his recent spate of incompetance.

There is nothing anywhere in this scenario to "celebrate" for anyone involved.

[Yakbutter]

I hope it's more than just Iginla being traded. It wouldn't make sense to ship our franchise player out of town and leave other good trade options (stempniak, cammy, kipper, bouw) stajan ect) on the rooster. Might as well go all in and sell off everyone that won't be a contributor in 3-4 years.

[dino7c]

after the most recent lockout I finally realized the players don't give a #### about the fans anyway. Enjoy the game and the skills of the players on the ice but as far as a personal attachment, these guys don't give a #### about you personally so don't get too attached to them. Iginla is not gonna sign here for some steep discount, he has a few more years the rake in the millions and will be taking advantage of that.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I only read the first 3 pages of this thread, but if this rumour is true, i am surprised that some of you are happy that Vancouver or NY Rangers are not on the list. For me i want as many teams on that list as possible. That does not mean they have to trade him to Vancouver but it could help with leverage against other teams. I wish the list was 10 -15 teams deep.

Well I think Iginla probably realizes that it would be painful for fans to see him go to one of the Flames biggest rivals. So that crosses Vancouver off.

Then you have the Rangers who are currently out of the playoffs in the standings. Not sure why anyone would think Iginla would fancy his chances of winning a cup there.

Neither of those destinations really make any sense. It seems clear he's cherry picked what he and his agent think are the top teams with the best chances of winning the cup that aren't one of the Flames biggest rivals. Not sure why people would expect his list to be substantially bigger.

[Roof-Daddy]

It is a godamn shame that this organization is in a situation where trading Iginla is something that even has to be considered.

Crazy to think that if two things could have happened, he would likely be a Flame for his entire career without question.

1. Somebody would have seen that friggin puck cross the line in 2004
2. Somebody in this organization could have drafted and developed some friggin talent in the last 10+ years

Either of those happens and the Flames aren't a position where trading Iggy is likely the best scenario to:

1. Give Iggy a chance at a Cup with a contender (because with drafting and development this team is still likely in the hunt)
2. Attempt to reload the organizational prospect/young player base.

Pisses me off that we're in this situation.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Yakbutter

I hope it's more than just Iginla being traded. It wouldn't make sense to ship our franchise player out of town and leave other good trade options (stempniak, cammy, kipper, bouw) stajan ect) on the rooster. Might as well go all in and sell off everyone that won't be a contributor in 3-4 years.

If Iggy is going, then you move everybody. No point keepng anyone else around.

[Sakari]

You get the 3 best teams in the league in a bidding war against eachother, you get a huge return.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

If Iggy is going, then you move everybody. No point keepng anyone else around.

I would want a somewhat balanced team, trade Jbo or Gio, Iginla, Cammy or Tanguay, Stempniak. Gutting the entire thing would leave us no balance and a place to hide the young kids

[Ryan Coke]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Once Iginla gives his list, his influence on the transaction should be zero with the exception of catching the flight out of town.

Assuming true, he gave a list where he would consider. He still has a full NMC, so it is ENTIRELY his discretion, right until he signs off.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

Assuming true, he gave a list where he would consider. He still has a full NMC, so it is ENTIRELY his discretion, right until he signs off.

Don't believe that is how it works in this case. If he's given a list of teams he's willing to waive his NMC for then that is the end of his involvement in the decision making process.

They wouldn't ask him for a list of teams he'd "consider" waiving to go to, they'd ask him for a list of teams he will waive to go to.

[Otto29]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

If Iggy is going, then you move everybody. No point keepng anyone else around.

I don't agree with that. The Flames aren't going to blow it up if they trade Iggy. They will add a few players but they wouldn't trade everyone

[killer_carlson]

Also, the best three teams in the league have been drafting late in the first round lately and im a bit concerned about the quality of their prospects, as a general rule, as compared to a team who is on the bubble and has drafted mid round or higher.

And with Gillies, Broissart and Ramo, i have little interest in Subban. BUT by asking For (in his capacity of Boston's top prospect not yet in the NHL), it sends word to the other contenders that you had better put up some top quality prospects.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by RT14

I don't. If we're not getting anything back that has even a remote chance of becoming a top player down the road, what is the point? A trade of our franchise player is supposed to kick start a rebuild here. A few mediocre pieces does not kick start anything.

IMO, at least one of the 2 or 3 pieces we get back will have top potential. Late 1st, blue chip prospect, top 6 forward. Otherwise there's no point.

The time for trading Iginla for a prospect who could replace him was 2-3 seasons ago.

People need to let go of the 'franchise player' label. The teams trading for Iginla don't care what he meant to the Flames in the past. They only care about what he is likely to do for them in the next couple months, or possibly the next couple years.

Mike Modano was the franchise player of the Stars organization for almost 20 years. He ended his career pencilled in as centering the Wing's 3rd line. That's how most star players - even first ballot hall of famers - end their careers.

If you can get one or more pieces back that will do more for the Flames in the next 2-6 seasons than Jarome Iginla will in that time frame, then you do it. I'd be happy with depth in a rebuild. Teams so rarely move out top-flight prospects these days unless it's for players just entering their prime (Richards, Carter).

[return to the red]

Not a fan of players submitting apparent lists, it severely limits the ability of the team to receive substantial offers.

Obviously if they have NTC's or NMC's it's the players right to do that but I'd rather they get the offers in, take it to the players and then go from there. Maybe huge waste of times but you just never know.

That being said I could get behind Iginla on LA, Boston or Pitt but not Chicago

[goflamesgo18]

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One note to pass along during my travel day: hearing Boston no longer has interest in #SJSharks Ryane Clowe.

[HELPNEEDED]

Oh I fear him landing in LA, he would eat the flames for lunch.