12-14-2012, 12:23 PM
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#161
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Originally Posted by vektor
No, I'm speaking from my psychology degree. And despite what you may think there is in fact hard factual evidence linking psychiatric drugs to having severe side effects such as suicidal ideations and uncontrolled violent behavior in certain cases, especially when different psychiatrics are mixed. Maybe you people should read instead of spewing hatred, I am not nationalistic at all, I think coherently and listen to others' opinion. All I am getting back is hatred for having a viewpoint that is less common, the less intelligent mind lashes out instead of thinking objectively.
now we're putting words into my mouth, too bad half of you are too stupid to have a logical debate with.
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Too stupid? I have a pharmacy degree, and your wrong. Suicidal ideation is not violence. Uncontrolled violent behavior? Prove yourself or stop making stuff up.
Edit: While suicidal ideation is technically violence against one's self, it does not in any way support your assertion that "drugged up" citizens are the cause of the rose in gun violence.
Last edited by Street Pharmacist; 12-14-2012 at 12:32 PM.
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12-14-2012, 12:24 PM
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#162
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CNN says largest mass killing in US history...
Except for Virginia Tech, and depending on the definition, 9/11.
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12-14-2012, 12:24 PM
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#163
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#1 Goaltender
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I found a Ryan Lanza on twitter with a tweet 7 hours ago saying "game day fellas."
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12-14-2012, 12:24 PM
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#164
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Originally Posted by Burninator
I agree about it possibly being a mental health problem, but I don't agree with the causes. Canada is very similar in those aspects yet the US has a seemingly out of proportion mass shooting problem. I honestly don't know why. I do wonder though that people with severe mental problems are falling through the cracks greater in the US than other countries.
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I think this is certainly an issue. Health care, particularly mental health care, is a major problem in the US.
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12-14-2012, 12:25 PM
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#165
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Originally Posted by vektor
hard factual evidence linking psychiatric drugs to having severe side effects such as suicidal ideations and uncontrolled violent behavior in certain cases, especially when different psychiatrics are mixed. .
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This would be my sister-in-law. We had to call the police on her 3 weeks ago - she was absolutely out of her mind but as soon as the police showed up, she managed to snap back to reality enough to fake her way out of being hauled in and she really needed to a) be hauled off, and b) admitted to a psychiatric facility. She's been violent toward other people, and I can't figure out why on earth none of them are pressing charges - right now, it is going to be the only way she gets the help she needs. She's on 12 (TWELVE!) different medications, 4 of which are anti-psychotics (clearly not working) and 4 major opiate pain medications - the rest are a mix of things. Her current doctor needs to be relieved of his license.
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12-14-2012, 12:27 PM
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#166
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Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice
CBS reports that the shooter's mother worked at the school and was killed today.
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12-14-2012, 12:27 PM
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#167
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Location: Calgary
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thoughts and prayers with the family
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12-14-2012, 12:28 PM
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#168
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NBC live feed just said the mother is a victim at the school, not at her house as previously reported, and the shooter is actually 24.
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12-14-2012, 12:28 PM
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#169
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Originally Posted by jschick88
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There's a video of him on there.
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12-14-2012, 12:29 PM
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#170
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
CNN says largest mass killing in US history...
Except for Virginia Tech, and depending on the definition, 9/11.
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They said largest school shooting since it was as it passed Columbine.
Virginia Tech is the largest mass killing.
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12-14-2012, 12:29 PM
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#171
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Not a commentary on music relating to actions...just what was found on his facebook page
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12-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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#172
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by Puppet Guy
Hug your kids a little harder tonight, everyone.
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I'm supopsed to be going from the office to our company Christmas party and I won't see my son until tomorrow morning (staying with Grandma).
I take comfort in the fact that he learned how to say "bye, bye" to me today, after weeks of showing him how and saying it to him.
...damn onions...
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12-14-2012, 12:31 PM
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#173
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
They said largest school shooting since it was as it passed Columbine.
Virginia Tech is the largest mass killing.
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I'm sorry, your first sentence doesn't make sense. How are they defining "mass killing" and "school shooting"?
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12-14-2012, 12:35 PM
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#174
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
There's a video of him on there.
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One includes him playing Grand Theft Auto. Can't imagine that isn't going to be latched onto.
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12-14-2012, 12:35 PM
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#175
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NBC live feed said from what they understand, he shot the principal's office first then entered the classroom his mother was teaching and concentrated his attack there.
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12-14-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by valo403
One includes him playing Grand Theft Auto. Can't imagine that isn't going to be latched onto.
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Aaron Morgan @Aaron_Morgan Fox News just commented video games and seeing each other as easily killed "virtual creatures" is to blame. Not mental health and gun laws.
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12-14-2012, 12:37 PM
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#177
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Apparently everyone found the wrong facebook
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12-14-2012, 12:38 PM
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#178
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I should also mention that all the news stations are terrible at parsing facts from rumors and misinformation to the viewer so early into an event like this, especially live.
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12-14-2012, 12:39 PM
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#179
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Yes I can't wait for Hollywood,Grand Theft Auto and violent videos games, and once Pat Robertson speaks to it, gays, the purple Teletuby, Charletons and the ACLU are the real culprits here. Right wing America never gets more pathetic than on days like this.
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12-14-2012, 12:41 PM
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#180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
I'm supopsed to be going from the office to our company Christmas party and I won't see my son until tomorrow morning (staying with Grandma).
I take comfort in the fact that he learned how to say "bye, bye" to me today, after weeks of showing him how and saying it to him.
...damn onions... 
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My wife and kids are away for the weekend, I got hugs and kisses before they left but could use one now.
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