Texas dad beats 4-year-old daughter's alleged attacker to death

[Huntingwhale]

Great decision. The Father is a smart, smart man. Not only did he get to beat the living crap out of a guy assaulting his daughter, but he tried to make sure he stayed alive until the authorities showed up. Society deems the father a hero. Hats off to him. Vigilante justice stories like this make me happy.

However, lost in all of this is the fact a 4 year old got raped. I hope she can continue to live a normal life. Very disgusting to hear that someone could do this to an innocent child. That rapist got what he deserved. Who knows how many other victims he did this to.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

Sounds like he was genuinely concerned for the accused condition. I'd like to hear more about a how long the beating was, but if it was a reasonable amount of force that just went wrong, then I am happy with the non-charge.

It really doesn't take much to beat a man to death, its not like Hollywood where you see an epic scrap and the two bowed and broken fighters looking at each other with tear filled eyes of respect while shaking their bruised knuckles.

A properly place punch will put you in the ground, even an improperly placed punch will do the same thing which leads to the I didn't mean to kill him argument.

[Daradon]

I really don't know what I would do in the spur of the moment. This would be one of the situations where I could see myself 'losing it'. Child abuse is the worst thing one can do IMO. Don't mind the decision to be completely honest. It was a spur of the moment thing, it's not like he hunted him down.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by Daradon

I really don't know what I would do in the spur of the moment. This would be one of the situations where I could see myself 'losing it'. Child abuse is the worst thing one can do IMO. Don't mind the decision to be completely honest. It was a spur of the moment thing, it's not like he hunted him down.

I wouldn't know what I'd do, either, and I doubt many would, but that, of course, doesn't mean much when considering if the man (or you, or I) should be allowed in the eyes of the court to beat a man to death. We are all responsible for our actions, and that includes accidentally killing someone in defense of ourselves or someone else.

It would be nice if they would release some more information regarding it all. Be easier to create an informed opinion if they did. They wouldn't need to reveal that much, honestly, and nothing to identify anyone.

[Daradon]

That's why I used the terminology I did. 'don't know what I would do' 'didn't mind the decision'. It's obviously a massive grey area morally and legally.

I think it plays out differently in Canada. And I'm not sure how I feel about that.

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by Daradon

That's why I used the terminology I did. 'don't know what I would do' 'didn't mind the decision'. It's obviously a massive grey area morally and legally.

I think it plays out differently in Canada. And I'm not sure how I feel about that.

I'm not sure if it's necessarily that massive a grey area legally, but I'm no lawyer. If laws exist that say you can kill someone in self defense, then, yes it could be grey. If laws exist that say you can kill someone in self defense if you feel you or another's life is in danger, it would be less so, depending on the details of the crime.

[Daradon]

Well yeah, the law is more clear in those states. Especially for the whole 'defending property with deadly force' allowances. That obviously extends to family.

I guess I was summing up for all sorts of areas and situations. For instance here you have to prove you are in mortal danger to get away with it I believe. Even on your own property. This case would be interesting (for lack of a better term). You would have to do something to defend, you couldn't just say, 'please stop raping my daughter'. But how much would be considered acceptable?

I can see why the rule is that way for robberies. But I've always had a problem with this rule when the attacker is armed or has already done harm to you or your family.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

It really doesn't take much to beat a man to death, its not like Hollywood where you see an epic scrap and the two bowed and broken fighters looking at each other with tear filled eyes of respect while shaking their bruised knuckles.

A properly place punch will put you in the ground, even an improperly placed punch will do the same thing which leads to the I didn't mean to kill him argument.

Sometimes it's not even the punch, but rather the head hitting the ground.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Daradon

That's why I used the terminology I did. 'don't know what I would do' 'didn't mind the decision'. It's obviously a massive grey area morally and legally.

I think it plays out differently in Canada. And I'm not sure how I feel about that.

It would. But a case like this would probably be the one that gets our archaic self defense law off the books. That thing is basically waiting for a supreme court challenge.