CP's NHL 13 Connected GM Interest Thread - Page 9 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

emti · 08-07-2012, 03:44 AM

Doesnt really matter a whole lot to me but I think a team selection draft would be nice, that way we get some say in that matter

FlyingDonutz · 08-07-2012, 09:19 AM

Okay well there's a couple issues I want to address.

Time Zone issue: There may be a few players that live in the Scandinavian regions and other European countries, and as we know they have much different time than us. Now one player suggested we make a separate league for them. As much as this would work if we had say 15-20 people living over in Europe, we don't, I don't think. My guess is the most of us are Canadian and American, if not mostly Canadian. I might be ignorant to this topic, but that's just my guess based on observations. Anyways, there's a few things we could do here.

The players in question are from Sweden. It is now approaching 5:00 in Stockholm. I am in the Eastern Time Zone, and It's now coming onto 11 AM. A 6 hour difference isn't hard to work around for me, but I know lots of the members here actually live in Calgary, and even harder to work around, farther west into a 3 hour time distance from the EST. So basically, you guys are 9 hours away from the Swedish players. Now there's a few things I'd like to suggest we do here.

I don't think it'd be that much a problem for the European players to stay up a bit later on even just weekends to play their games, all others could be simmed. If they can stay up later, that would be great. But if you're living in the Pacific Time Zone you're 9 hours difference, so what we'd need to organize is for you to be up to play around Noon. For workers, this could be somewhat of an issue. So if you're 9 hours difference, maybe players in the PST could either play their games around 12 AM and you could get up real damn early, or, vice-versa, they get up real damn early and you play at a decent time.

What I'd like for people to do is inform us of when you can play. I know lots of people work, and have school, and it'd be nice to fit everyone in with being able to play, and such. So just let us know so maybe we could figure something out.

Team Selection: I, being the very... free-time person I am, would have no issue setting up a lottery and make a team selection draft somewhere on the internet (unless its a feature in the game, haven't heard much and I keep right up to date with this game) . It seems that people here prefer that option, and I prefer the option of keeping people happy, so I say we could do it. But how we'd base the lottery is sort of the issue, I mean we don't have standings here or anything. I guess we could base it on who asked first.

Then again, we could randomize them, and if you get the Oil or the Leafs, deal with it! Unless you like either of them (how?) , then congrats!

I like either, and I can do either, but I'll leave it up to Joborule.

Player Selection: It's a bad day when EA makes an online league feature, with no Fantasy Draft. So it's a bad day. So I guess we'll just have to randomize the rosters. Because I know for a fact that if we didn't, and I was first, I would pick Pittsburgh. Yeah, I hate them, but I know Malkin and Crosby will both probably be at least 93's, if not 94's. I'd trade Fleury for Kipper and Malkin for Iggy and I'd be good. Then there'd be Minnesota.

So I say Randomize the rosters, and if there is a way to draft the teams, whether it means doing a draft on the internet and I'll just build the rosters how they're drafted, do that, because that's probably the most pleasing way of doing it.

Asides from that, I think everything else should figure itself out.

secol · 08-07-2012, 12:47 PM

again....sim league or play all games? if we play all the game VS style then i don't see how it's that different from HUT......

likwid888 · 08-07-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by secol

again....sim league or play all games? if we play all the game VS style then i don't see how it's that different from HUT......

I'd prefer to sim. Makes the game more focused on your GM skills and how you coach/manage your team rather than playing VS and scoring glitch goals.

Hockey · 08-07-2012, 03:05 PM

I agree that we should sim the games. I could have Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos and Giroux on my team, but since I'm not good at the game I would probably end up losing most games.

Joborule · 08-07-2012, 03:18 PM

Well it's important we figure out who wants to be part of a sim leauge, and who wants to be part of a league that plays. Or a hybrid of both if there's enough demand.

Me personally would prefer to actually play games. I may not be able to play each one of them, but I would like to have the ability to.

ComixZone · 08-07-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joborule

Well it's important we figure out who wants to be part of a sim leauge, and who wants to be part of a league that plays. Or a hybrid of both if there's enough demand.

Me personally would prefer to actually play games. I may not be able to play each one of them, but I would like to have the ability to.

Ditto.

FlamesFan86 · 08-07-2012, 04:17 PM

I would prefer to play the games as well.

miraisoup · 08-07-2012, 04:20 PM

I honestly don't care either way. Ill play or sim.

FlyingDonutz · 08-07-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Joborule

Well it's important we figure out who wants to be part of a sim leauge, and who wants to be part of a league that plays. Or a hybrid of both if there's enough demand.

Me personally would prefer to actually play games. I may not be able to play each one of them, but I would like to have the ability to.

I like that idea. A sim league sounds great, IMO. But the thing is I doubt we'd be able to schedule 82 games so that everyone can be there to play their opponent . I guess you could just play against the AI that they made...

Fransken · 08-07-2012, 05:07 PM

First I would like to reply to your post were you adressed the different problems Flying. I don't know if I made my point clear, but I didn't intend that one of the leagues should be a european league. My general point was that one league could be started on September 11 and one on September 13 if it was enough North American that could imagine themselves to start two days later with addition of the few Europeans around here.

About the team selection I, on one hand, think that it shouldn't be too much of a problem to organize a team draft as the game is over a month away. But on the other hand I don't think that it should be a problem even if you got the Oilers since the team is randomized. And there is also my opinion if we should randomize the rosters or not.

And correct me if I'm wrong but if i recall it right I saw in one of the videos that the commisioner could choose how long you got to play all your matches (5v5, head-to-head, simulate, be a coach or play against the AI) with a time spectra from 3 days up to 2 weeks and if everyone was ready he could start the next season immediately. If it is that way, I don't think we have do decide however it should be simulate only or not because then you could play some matches against your friends, maybe coach some and simulate when you get tired or if you have like 1 hour to the deadline. Because I think it's a bit harsh to demand everyone to complete their seasons in less than 3 days.

FlamesKickAss · 08-07-2012, 05:54 PM

yeah not interested in being in a sim league. I buy NHL to play not to be a GM......

Fire · 08-07-2012, 06:39 PM

I'm in, for Xbox360.

Mitch · 08-07-2012, 06:42 PM

Does that not take out the point of an NHL GM mode? One could suck at playing but have an amazing team and still lose. While one person could be amazing at playing but have a terrible team and still win.

I'd like a sim league. I can play other game modes to actually control players.

secol · 08-07-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch

Does that not take out the point of an NHL GM mode? One could suck at playing but have an amazing team and still lose. While one person could be amazing at playing but have a terrible team and still win.

I'd like a sim league. I can play other game modes to actually control players.

that's why i mentioned HUT and i guess this also includes the online leagues as well......also i'm not saying the euros should be split, but if we adopt playing games, then that would be an issue because of lag/time difference

my preference would be to sim. would be faster, unlike any other game modes by a long shot and really gives you a chance to build your team (hopefully they let you draft, etc)

Conman57 · 08-07-2012, 07:03 PM

I definitely think we should play most if not all of our games (I understand if you're away or if you have a big time difference though). Those who have/are going to practice and put time into the game will be rewarded. The game is about gameplay, right? Why shouldn't we play the game... Maybe we could have a league for people wanting to sim and a different league for people who want to play (If there's enough for that). I think a 2 day wait untill we start the league is good. If people start using cheap tactics or glitch goals we could post a video on the thread and maybe the commish could take disipilanary action.

One thing that I don't think we've discussed is the rules for who can play. If you have a buddy at your house it's cool if he wants to play with you for one of your GM games (provided that is isn't a playoff game or a game right before the playoffs) but I don't think that a GM should be allowed to recruit other players online when he needs to play a game. It wouldn't be showing the skill of the GM, it would be showing the skill of the best players he could convince to play his games for him (which doesn't really seem fair). I also think that the 1v1 play would add a more personal level to the games as you could actually talk to the other GM's. It would add to the trading aspect as you would know which GM's you like and such (like with the computer GM's in BAGM, you can be friendly relationship, neutral, etc.) making a more realistic game and league.

I'd also like to thank Joborules and FlyingDonutz for taking such a big role in putting this together. It's a lot of work, good job guys!

likwid888 · 08-07-2012, 07:57 PM

GM mode is about managing a team. I understand people want to play their games, but there are many modes in NHL13 for that.

I'm fine with doing a hybrid if the CPU controlled teams aren't set on a weak difficulty. It really defeats the purpose if those who don't want to play their games are at a major disadvantage.

Diemenz · 08-07-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Conman57

I definitely think we should play most if not all of our games (I understand if you're away or if you have a big time difference though). Those who have/are going to practice and put time into the game will be rewarded. The game is about gameplay, right? Why shouldn't we play the game... Maybe we could have a league for people wanting to sim and a different league for people who want to play (If there's enough for that). I think a 2 day wait untill we start the league is good. If people start using cheap tactics or glitch goals we could post a video on the thread and maybe the commish could take disipilanary action.

One thing that I don't think we've discussed is the rules for who can play. If you have a buddy at your house it's cool if he wants to play with you for one of your GM games (provided that is isn't a playoff game or a game right before the playoffs) but I don't think that a GM should be allowed to recruit other players online when he needs to play a game. It wouldn't be showing the skill of the GM, it would be showing the skill of the best players he could convince to play his games for him (which doesn't really seem fair). I also think that the 1v1 play would add a more personal level to the games as you could actually talk to the other GM's. It would add to the trading aspect as you would know which GM's you like and such (like with the computer GM's in BAGM, you can be friendly relationship, neutral, etc.) making a more realistic game and league.

I'd also like to thank Joborules and FlyingDonutz for taking such a big role in putting this together. It's a lot of work, good job guys!

I disagree with almost everything in this post.

1. It's a gm league, people should GM not play that's what hut is for.
2. If a short side wrister works guess what? 95% of people will do it.
3. So a buddy can a play a game but people can't recruit? Is someone gonna hide in the bushes outside of people's houses to make sure?
4. Playing the game drastically changes the outcome. Several of us play at different levels, how excited do you think people will be when they are 0-22.
5. Playing a game takes 30 min +. Sims are less then 5 min. Trust me, these leagues are super busy for 2-3 weeks then it's all crickets. 5 minutes will give instant gratification and keep people interested longer.

secol · 08-07-2012, 09:13 PM

exactly diemenz.....HUT, league and all kinds of OTP/VS online allow you to play 1 V 1.......unless you have a human G, it is difficult to point out what is a glitch and what isn't (high % shot VS glitch). as mentioned, examples in this year's games: short side wristers coming out of the corner. glitch or valid strategy? skating backwards? drag wristers? toe drag "qc" wrister? one hand deke then quickly back to forehand? shootout/penalty shot turnaround/spin shot? dive glitch (pretty obvious)? hip checks? deke where you can beat the CPU 90% of the time (bait into CPU then deke away)?

just trying to show you that while there are obvious glitches, there are lots of grey things that are too interpretive.....

FlyingDonutz · 08-07-2012, 09:32 PM

Well, I'd like to play some games, but sim others. I believe we can choose to sim, too. I sim most of my games in my be a GM and I've got a 53-21-3 record, with Salary cap. I've lost I think 1 or 2 games against the CPU while actually playing, and that's on Allstar/Superstar difficulty (I change it up, usually AllStar though).

The thing is the skill level. Not to brag, but I am pretty good at the games. I wouldn't want to ruin someones great hockey mind with my video game skill.

I would like to sim most games, especially with the new build your AI feature. Play maybe 20 games, if we're doing the full 82.

I think randomizing rosters isn't a bad idea, however I'd still be willing to set up the lottery.

Oh and, if we split up the leagues on 360 and PS3, a team selection draft isn't a bad thing because then you won't be forced to play as a team you specifically hate, unless you hate lots of teams (like me).