Impaired Driving / DUI Advice

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I In the OP's case he may have been the victim of a host with a generous "free-pour."

I wouldn't give the OP a pass by referring to him as a victim in ANY sense of the word.

I'm sure it wasn't your intent but referring to a drunk driver as a 'victim' does an incredible disservice to the real victims of impaired drivers.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

I wouldn't give the OP a pass by referring to him as a victim in ANY sense of the word.

I'm sure it wasn't your intent but referring to a drunk driver as a 'victim' does an incredible disservice to the real victims of impaired drivers.

Haha, c'mon man, you know he wasn't reffering to him as the same kind of "victim" as an actual drinking and driving victim.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I've always thought bars should have breathalyzers. I'd like to know my BAL before I drive even it's just one or two. I think a lot of people (like the OP) wouldn't drive if they had any way of measuring their BAL.

There used to be a vending machine in some bars which I believe were all removed. They found they did not have a deterrent affect, people drank more to see how high of a number they could blow.

[killer_carlson]

I can say that POINTS or similarily situated service would be my last call if I was ever caught with a DUI.

Call a criminal LAWYER - not someone trying to be one.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

I believe you are still responsible for everything you say on the internet. This has implications for things like libel. I don't know that it has ever been used in this sort of case before, but seems more likely as the use of the internet evolves. Bottom line is you are responsible for what you say on the internet, just like anywhere else. It's just harder to trace back to you.

I wonder if those crooks at BELL will ever try suing me for telling the world about their blatant thievery.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

When you blow a .13 you're pretty much trashed, thats not slightly over, your approaching that double over.

at .10 to .19 your symptoms are usually

Over-expression
Emotional swings
Anger or sadness
Boisterousness
Decreased libido

Decreased libido? Decreased standards, maybe.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by MikeMc

I went through this and i won't lie it sucks.

First things first, you need to be honest with yourself. Did you blow over? It's really that plain and simple. Judges won't look at anything but that.

Consult a lawyer you know and trust, don't just go to these 'Specialists in DUI's' jokers. They are basically the McDonalds of law.

Ask the lawyer yuo trust flat out what your chances are. If its not good. Bite the bullet, take the hit and save yourself the time and money of fighting this.

You'll be driving in a yr and your criminal record will be cleared in 2-3, well you'll be pardoned anyway. It sucks but it's what i wished i did. Instead of wasting more time and thousands of dollars on a lawyer.

If you choose to go the route of fighting this, or at east exploring that option, this is the best advice possible. Don't just hand your wallet to someone who says they can get you x and y result, not only are such promises unlikely to be fulfilled they're borderline illegal. Find a lawyer who tells it to you straight, doesn't sugar coat the reality you face and charges you a fee that is in line with what a comparable lawyer will charge. There's an element of lawyers out there that make a living off big promises without results, don't fall for that. You're in a bad place, but don't make it worse by spending money on legal fees that don't get you anywhere.

It seems that you've quite clearly learned a major lesson and are being very mature about the whole thing. Best of luck, it's not the end of the world.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Ne7en

Absolutely, the u-turn was only done because I needed to turn around to get the wallet. Had nothing to do with drinking.

You don't get it do you?
If you weren't impaired, chances are you would have been smart (aka sober) enough to say "hey, this is an illegal u-turn that could get me into an accident or possibly a ticket from the po-lice."
But since you were sloshed you threw caution to the wind and cranked the wheel in what would be the single most expensive turn of your life.

You should "up" the d-bag factor and demand your friend who forgot his wallet pay for all legal costs since its all his fault. Or better yet, get that friend to split it with the guy who poured your two "house drinks".

[Ne7en]

Originally Posted by Ducay

You don't get it do you?
If you weren't impaired, chances are you would have been smart (aka sober) enough to say "hey, this is an illegal u-turn that could get me into an accident or possibly a ticket from the po-lice."
But since you were sloshed you threw caution to the wind and cranked the wheel in what would be the single most expensive turn of your life.

You should "up" the d-bag factor and demand your friend who forgot his wallet pay for all legal costs since its all his fault. Or better yet, get that friend to split it with the guy who poured your two "house drinks".

Your way out of line! I was asked if I would have done the u-turn if I was sober and I know without any doubt I would have. The area had zero traffic and occurred in a residential intersection. You act as thou no sober person ever made a u-turn.

Amusing how some posters take the high road, understand that I made a mistake and give me great advice without crucifying me. Yet someone like you construes the facts in an attempt to insult someone who is admitting wrong doing. However you came up with the theory that I was blaming my friend for this is beyond my mindset.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Ne7en

Amusing how some posters take the high road, understand that I made a mistake and give me great advice without crucifying me. Yet someone like you construes the facts in an attempt to insult someone who is admitting wrong doing. However you came up with the theory that I was blaming my friend for this is beyond my mindset.

It's the internet. What do you expect? Posters wouldn't know how to respond were it not for the one-upmanship of indignation from the last guy. Really, you brought it on yourself making this thread, no sense in complaining about the holier than thou d-bags now.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Ducay

You don't get it do you?
If you weren't impaired, chances are you would have been smart (aka sober) enough to say "hey, this is an illegal u-turn that could get me into an accident or possibly a ticket from the po-lice."
But since you were sloshed you threw caution to the wind and cranked the wheel in what would be the single most expensive turn of your life.

You should "up" the d-bag factor and demand your friend who forgot his wallet pay for all legal costs since its all his fault. Or better yet, get that friend to split it with the guy who poured your two "house drinks".

No, you don't get it. It was suggested that maybe he wouldn't have pulled the u-turn if he had been sober because "people are more aggressive when they've been drinking". He refuted that claim, stating that he would have pulled the u-turn regardless. I mean, ffs, how many people do illegal u-turns out of convenience while sober? The answer is craploads.

Your post is garbage, as you're speaking for him and saying that he wouldn't have pulled a u-turn, and only did so because he was "sloshed", which is BS, as you don't know that.

He's been very mature about the whole thing, obviously learned a lesson, and will pay for his choice, and is now just looking for advice on how to best handle the fallout. Your post is just immature, speculative crap that doesn't add anything to the thread.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by Ducay

You don't get it do you?
If you weren't impaired, chances are you would have been smart (aka sober) enough to say "hey, this is an illegal u-turn that could get me into an accident or possibly a ticket from the po-lice."
But since you were sloshed you threw caution to the wind and cranked the wheel in what would be the single most expensive turn of your life.

You should "up" the d-bag factor and demand your friend who forgot his wallet pay for all legal costs since its all his fault. Or better yet, get that friend to split it with the guy who poured your two "house drinks".

You should turn "down" the d-bag factor.

[Champion]

I know one guy who just wrote his LSAT. Got wasted one weekend. Drove. Crashed his car. Resisted arrest. Tried fighting the officers.

Got off.....Paid $15000-$20000 for his lawyer. Must have been a technicality. He now practices law.

[V]

I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't have taken the u-turn at that moment if you were sober because you would've seen the cop watching you.

To claim that you made the same decisions while driving over the limit that you would've made sober is a little silly.

I'm not trying to claim any moral high ground here, though. About 10 years ago I went out for a drink after work and we ended up staying too long and consumed too much. I drove all the way across the city to get home and I was terrified I was going to get caught. I was fortunate that I was able to learn my lesson without any real retribution. Since then I've had a friend lose her mother to a drunk driver and I really can't imagine being in the position of that guy.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by V

I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't have taken the u-turn at that moment if you were sober because you would've seen the cop watching you.

To claim that you made the same decisions while driving over the limit that you would've made sober is a little silly.

WTF? Are you serious? Some of you folks need to stay away from this thread, the capacity to discuss what the OP has requested is beyond you.

How the fata do you know he would have seen the cop? You're really trying to troll aren't you.

Originally Posted by V

I'm not trying to claim any moral high ground here, though.

I'll believe that when me sh@t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Ducay

You don't get it do you?
If you weren't impaired, chances are you would have been smart (aka sober) enough to say "hey, this is an illegal u-turn that could get me into an accident or possibly a ticket from the po-lice."
But since you were sloshed you threw caution to the wind and cranked the wheel in what would be the single most expensive turn of your life.

You should "up" the d-bag factor and demand your friend who forgot his wallet pay for all legal costs since its all his fault. Or better yet, get that friend to split it with the guy who poured your two "house drinks".

BS, I have got a U Turn ticket totally sober. You don't need booze to make a bad decision now or then.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteEbola

WTF? Are you serious? Some of you folks need to stay away from this thread, the capacity to discuss what the OP has requested is beyond you.

How the fata do you know he would have seen the cop? You're really trying to troll aren't you.

Despite saying that he's sorry and that he knows that what he did was stupid, by saying that he's sure that he'd have driven the exact same way if he didn't have a 0.13 BAC, he's proving that he still doesn't get it. He still doesn't realize that that much alcohol affects a person's ability to make decisions, and it also affects a person's ability to recognize that their ability to make decisions is impaired. Of course he thinks that he'd have driven just as foolishly if he was sober, just like he thought that he was sober. Until he realizes that the booze clouded the reality, he's trivializing what he did. He risked countless lives, but thankfully did something stupid enough to get arrested before he could do any damage. Calling him out on that isn't trolling even if it's not the reason that he started the thread.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Despite saying that he's sorry and that he knows that what he did was stupid, by saying that he's sure that he'd have driven the exact same way if he didn't have a 0.13 BAC, he's proving that he still doesn't get it. He still doesn't realize that that much alcohol affects a person's ability to make decisions, and it also affects a person's ability to recognize that their ability to make decisions is impaired. Of course he thinks that he'd have driven just as foolishly if he was sober, just like he thought that he was sober. Until he realizes that the booze clouded the reality, he's trivializing what he did. He risked countless lives, but thankfully did something stupid enough to get arrested before he could do any damage. Calling him out on that isn't trolling even if it's not the reason that he started the thread.

He would have made the U-turn regardless. He was driving one direction and had to double-back. I make U-turns all the time and I haven't had a drop to drink.

Some are generalizing the comments, "decisions" etc. What is at debate is a decision, not plural. If he was sober would he have attempted the U-turn? The answer is yes.

No one is debating the effects of alcohol, especially the OP.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteEbola

He would have made the U-turn regardless. He was driving one direction and had to double-back. I make U-turns all the time and I haven't had a drop to drink.

Some are generalizing the comments, "decisions" etc. What is at debate is a decision, not plural. If he was sober would he have attempted the U-turn? The answer is yes.

No one is debating the effects of alcohol, especially the OP.

The immediate question is whether he would have made an illegal u-turn right in front of the cop. None of us can answer that question because we weren't there, and the OP can't answer that question because he was drunk. The fact that he still can't comprehend that the booze may have affected his decision making ability tells me that he still doesn't realize how dangerous it is to drive while 50% over the legal limit, despite his claims to the contrary.

[justkidding]

Did I miss something here? Did the OP state that he made a u-turn at a residential intersection? Is it not legal to make a u-turn at an intersection that doesn't specifically say no u-turns?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by justkidding

Did I miss something here? Did the OP state that he made a u-turn at a residential intersection? Is it not legal to make a u-turn at an intersection that doesn't specifically say no u-turns?

Unless otherwise marked, it is not legal to make a u-turn at a controlled intersection.