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[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/24/...n-patent-suit/

That whole lawsuit is kind of stupid. A few of the things Apple were claiming before in the dispute was "Icons to launch applications" and similar "Rectangular design with black bezel". Like come on... like anything in OS design is original. Xerox and RIM respectively had both before Apple.

Samsung's already counter-sued for a number of wireless and communications technology infringements. This is just going to degrade into some kind of cross licensing agreement somewhere down the line. Another huge waste of money where the only winners are lawyers. Companies really need to lay off the lawyers for once and put the money towards making better products for the consumer.

[Art Vandelay]

We're not really nook people.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

That whole lawsuit is kind of stupid. A few of the things Apple were claiming before in the dispute was "Icons to launch applications" and similar "Rectangular design with black bezel". Like come on... like anything in OS design is original. Xerox and RIM respectively had both before Apple.

Samsung's already counter-sued for a number of wireless and communications technology infringements. This is just going to degrade into some kind of cross licensing agreement somewhere down the line. Another huge waste of money where the only winners are lawyers. Companies really need to lay off the lawyers for once and put the money towards making better products for the consumer.

A patent lawyer would need to clarify, but the gist I heard from a podcast was that if you have a patent and somebody crosses the line you basically have to sue them.

Apple has so much money at this point I can't imagine the lawsuits directly impact the users.

[MickMcGeough]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Where did you buy your Nook Color? I was thinking of picking one up myself

Great Falls

[Bobblehead]

Apple has sued Samsung, Samsung has sued Apple in return, iPad uses many products fabricated by Samsung.

This will carry on until both sides have an idea which way a ruling will go, then they will negotiate a settlement via an exchange of patent rights and/or fab architecture.

There are so many lawsuits right now between so many companies that it will take years to sort out and by the time it does the issue will have long since devolved into obsolescence and a new set of lawsuits will have taken over. IP lawyers are a growth area.

http://www.economist.com/node/17309237

[FanIn80]

The important thing about what I posted wasn't that Apple is suing Samsung, it was that Samsung was ordered to turn over 5 unreleased products to Apple by a federal judge.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Where did you buy your Nook Color? I was thinking of picking one up myself

Both Mick and I got them while in Vegas this past weekend.

I, also, have had a good experience with it. So far, I am liking it!

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

The important thing about what I posted wasn't that Apple is suing Samsung, it was that Samsung was ordered to turn over 5 unreleased products to Apple by a federal judge.

Not to Apple. To the court.

And so Apple petitioned the court to see what Samsung is up to next, and the court agreed – but with caveats. The most important of these is that the prototypes and packaging materials will not be seen by Apple employees – even Apple's in-house lawyers. "The expedited discovery ordered herein must be produced with the designation 'Outside Counsel Eyes Only'," the ruling reads.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05...th_prototypes/

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Apple has sued Samsung, Samsung has sued Apple in return, iPad uses many products fabricated by Samsung.

This will carry on until both sides have an idea which way a ruling will go, then they will negotiate a settlement via an exchange of patent rights and/or fab architecture.

There are so many lawsuits right now between so many companies that it will take years to sort out and by the time it does the issue will have long since devolved into obsolescence and a new set of lawsuits will have taken over. IP lawyers are a growth area.

http://www.economist.com/node/17309237

So basically from the article, everyone was happy and all the phone manufacturer's had cross licensing and fair use agreements with each other until Apple decided not to play ball by paying the licensing fees and started suing everyone.

Originally Posted by Russic

Apple has so much money at this point I can't imagine the lawsuits directly impact the users.

It is harming the consumer in a lot of ways. Patent costs are rising with the rate of litigation and now make up 15-20% of a smart phone's selling price. If the litigation goes up so will the costs of our products.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

So basically from the article, everyone was happy and all the phone manufacturer's had cross licensing and fair use agreements with each other until Apple decided not to play ball by paying the licensing fees and started suing everyone.



It is harming the consumer in a lot of ways. Patent costs are rising with the rate of litigation and now make up 15-20% of a smart phone's selling price. If the litigation goes up so will the costs of our products.

Maybe, but there is enough blame to go around. It is a burgeoning area and with the way the patent system is set up and the rapid rate of change, this was bound to happen. Perhaps Apple through more early punches, but there were lots of competitors waiting for the bell.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

Both Mick and I got them while in Vegas this past weekend.

I, also, have had a good experience with it. So far, I am liking it!

You really shouldn't be talking about the "nooks" you and your buddy picked up in Vegas.

[Bobblehead]

Xoom 2 rumoured for a fall release with a new quad core Nvidia processor (codenamed Kal-El).

[fredr123]

Looks like Memory Express has a bunch of the Asus EeePad Transformers in stock now:

Tablet ($397.99): http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...8%28ME%29.aspx

Combo with dock ($517.99): http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...E%29.aspx?cc=1

[MRCboicgy]

Updated the Transformer to Android 3.1 this week, and improvements in performance are noticeable. It just doesn't seem as laggy with touch.

[MickMcGeough]

Does memex have any Transformer demo units on display?

[JayP]

Originally Posted by MickMcGeough

Does memex have any Transformer demo units on display?

The NE store didn't when I went in to pick one up at lunch just now. I think they're in too high demand to bother wasting one of their stock as a demo unit. I think this is only the second shipment they've received and the guy who works there said that the first shipment was all spoken for by employees so not a single unit was even available to the public.

[browna]

Staples McLeod has a Transformer on display currently.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by browna

Staples McLeod

Sounds like a porn name.

[chemgear]

Ouch. RIM keeps getting beaten like a dead horse.


http://business.financialpost.com/20...thirds-report/

It appears Research In Motion Ltd. may be expecting far fewer people to purchase its BlackBerry PlayBook than Canada’s smartphone maker had originally hoped.

According to a report from the Taiwanese news website DigiTimes citing supply chain sources, RIM has reportedly lowered its internal sales estimates of its first tablet device to between 800,000 and 900,000 units for the second quarter of its 2012 fiscal year.

[kermitology]

I was in Waterloo last night talking with a good friend who works at RIM. It's pretty clear that the Playbook was intended to be an enterprise device, not a consumer device, and that was a big swing and a miss from RIM. He said that the whole lack of native email client was designed with the vision that the Playbook would be an IT device that could be handed out to people who needed something like a laptop, but not quite a laptop, like the iPad, and with pairing with the users blackberry they had their entire profile with the device.

Of course the problem is that the Playbook is entering into a market that is consumer driven, not enterprise driven.

Basically the sentiment from him and others at RIM is that they need to transition to being a software company that makes secure OS's not a hardware company that is rapidly falling behind when it comes to devices.