2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dallas has been having some serious discussions with Conroy regarding Andersson. I think this might get done soon.

Exciting!

Thanks for the post diss.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Dallas has been having some serious discussions with Conroy regarding Andersson. I think this might get done soon.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

There is nothing new because teams are still not putting serious offers on the table yet that would make Conroy pull the trigger. People need to stop worrying about Conroy not willing to make a trade because we are only 3 points out of a playoff spot. I said before that this season is different and nothing has changed in that regard, the focus is still on the future.

Conroy has drummed up more pressure on teams interested in Andersson by leaking to pro insiders that they want that deal done before the Olympic break. Basically start coming with your trade deadline best offers now or someone else will and you will miss out.as for not shopping Kadri and Coleman it's part of the process, teams are calling about them and Conroy is listening, he doesn't need to shop those guys. If he thinks an offer improves the team in the future, is fair value, and the player he is dealing will have a chance to succeed and be happy going there he will not hesitate to pull the trigger. Right now teams are still just poking around, the best offers for those two players are going to come as we get close to the trade deadline. There is zero pressure for Conroy to move either Coleman or Kadri, both guys are happy to stay if it works out that way.

Relax, take a breath, it's going to be ok.

What were you hearing before the holidays when there's was lots of rumours? Was it quiet on your end or did you hear things you didn't post?

[Major Major]

If it's Dallas I'm guessing Bork, 27 first and another pick for retention. I want Bischel but seems unlikely. That division is a pressure cooker. Not surprised in the least that Dallas is looking to get in on the arms race.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Straw dog?

Nice catch there... not really anything of substance back to the claim of just randomly making stuff up like i said it and arguing with yourself but you nailed me on the phrase error. You and a couple other posters are really doing a bang up job chasing down all the baddies with the nerve to critique flames mgmt's rebuild to date.

I think this is probably the last place around online where the flames residence in the mushy middle isn't relentlessly criticized or mocked so I get wanting to protect whats left of your safe space.

Anyway glad to hear Dallas is getting serious and a move might happen soon. I know management can't make other teams deal with them but I still think one trade since June 2024 for a team on a listless path just kind of wasting seasons is a bit disappointing and am looking forward to some more moves when they make sense.

[Wolven]

I do worry it will make them less willing to move Coleman or Kadri, who are just as important to move this year IMO due to age and contract status to maximize value.

If the Flames are close to playoffs come the trade deadline, I bet management views this as a legit payoff team, given how close they came last year as well. I doubt theyre selling Coleman in that case with 2 years left, even if someone offers a lage 1st.

I'm sorry but there is no business case for keeping Coleman.

If the Flames aren’t there, it was managements choice. They have the ability to choose that path right now.

Inaction is them choosing not to be there. If we draft 9th instead of 3rd, and we have Coleman and Kadri? The math is simple, management chose not to give the team that draft opportunity and they should be judged on that.

Not wanting to call anyone out, but with this message repeating in a few different variations it does feel like the collective has forgotten (again) that Kadri and Coleman have pretty significant trade protection.

There are some strong takes that these two may not be traded because of something Conroy, Maloney, or ownership does or does not do but the simple answer is that these guys are very unlikely to be traded without their permission.

Kadri has a 13 team no trade list.
Coleman has a 10 team approved trade list (21 team no trade list).

If used strategically, both of these players could essentially give themselves no movement clauses. Coleman is unlikely to have a blind spot in his list but Kadri might.

However, Kadri's NTL blind spot is not going to be an obvious team that has a need for C and was projected to be the playoff hunt last summer. It would be a team like the Sharks that were expected to still be residing in the basement this season and are pretty stacked with C prospects.

Why would the Sharks want Kadri? I don't know, because he improves their roster by pushing Wennberg to 3C and beefs up their competitive spirit... The point is that it would take a serious offer from a team that would not have been an obvious suitor last summer.

Remember, Kadri pays an agent money to maximize the effectiveness of his NTL and give the player as much leverage as possible in the situation. They are not winging it like some Armchair GM on the interwebz.

It is cool to hope for these guys to be traded but it is foolish to expect it to happen and then go running off to get pitchforks because you willfully ignored some key variables in the situation.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Nice catch there... not really anything of substance back to the claim of just randomly making stuff up like i said it and arguing with yourself but you nailed me on the phrase error. You and a couple other posters are really doing a bang up job chasing down all the baddies with the nerve to critique flames mgmt's rebuild to date.

I think this is probably the last place around online where the flames residence in the mushy middle isn't relentlessly criticized or mocked so I get wanting to protect whats left of your safe space.

Anyway glad to hear Dallas is getting serious and a move might happen soon. I know management can't make other teams deal with them but I still think one trade since June 2024 for a team on a listless path just kind of wasting seasons is a bit disappointing and am looking forward to some more moves when they make sense.

“Chasing down baddies”?
“Protecting what’s left of your safe space”?

My goodness lol.

[Sandman]

Dallas has some nice pieces, they would make a good trade partner.

[#-3]

Maybe it's just me, but I think Frost is exactly what the Flames will need when they are ready to compete. I think they are probably in the 2-4 year time frame before they are actively trying to make the team better in the now.

If you are looking in the 2-4 year time line in this organization Goaltending looks shored up already, Defense looks highly likely to be home grown and strong, Wingers there are a couple of young recent graduates and 4-5 guys drafted high and looking promising in the pipeline.

This organization definitely needs to find the first line center of the future. But they will also need a second and third line center. And I might be a little more pessimistic about the pipeline in that area. If we graduate any full time NHL centers in the next 3 years, I'll be impressed. And if Kadri or Backlund are still playing for the Flames then, I'll be surprised.

Given all of that, I'm pretty happy if the 29/30 veteran presence on a young team looking to compete is a 2nd / 3rd line center that goes 55+ in the faceoff circle.

Farabee, I don't think he's the straw that stirs the drink on this team, it's OK to keep a culture of compete, even if you are trading away 2-3 vets that are important to the team, and probably exists here as a backup plan if you aren't able to develop a few prospects as you'd expect.

As much as we would all love to pick up a 200 lbs, 120pt Center in the draft, that isn't always enough to get a team out of the basement. After decimating any semblance of team culture it took the Oilers like 4 tries and 15 years to find a guy who could single handily pull them out of the basement, yet he still hasn't been able to restore the culture lost.

[Matty81]

It seems like bourque and bischel are two of the main names that get thrown around - and seems like bourque's value to the flames is much higher as a center, but noticed he is playing wing right now there, face-off percentage is 46% which isn't terrible but I wonder if hes actually going to be a center long run at nhl level, be interesting to hear from stars fans how he has looked there if hes actually involved. if hes a winger he's a much less valuable player for the organization i feel like.

Ive always liked Bischel a lot - love to see him involved with a 1st. The flames left side would be some monsters with him and bahl back there.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Nice catch there... not really anything of substance back to the claim of just randomly making stuff up like i said it and arguing with yourself but you nailed me on the phrase error. You and a couple other posters are really doing a bang up job chasing down all the baddies with the nerve to critique flames mgmt's rebuild to date.

I think this is probably the last place around online where the flames residence in the mushy middle isn't relentlessly criticized or mocked so I get wanting to protect whats left of your safe space.

Anyway glad to hear Dallas is getting serious and a move might happen soon. I know management can't make other teams deal with them but I still think one trade since June 2024 for a team on a listless path just kind of wasting seasons is a bit disappointing and am looking forward to some more moves when they make sense.

Jeebus you folks are martyrs.

EDIT: As for making things up, I never said you complained about the trade. What I did was point out that it's a valid part of a rebuild.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Frost was traded for a second round pick and taking on the Farabee contract.

This. And Kuzmenko who they were able to turn into a third round pick.

I guess if you squint you can say the flames got younger by that trade because of Kuzmenko. But he was leaving anyway and it ignores the draft capital given up.

I was still fine with the trade but I can understand some not liking it given where the Flames are in their rebuild.

I thought Bingo said it perfectly a few weeks ago. The Flames are definitely in a rebuild. Are they doing it exactly how I wished they would? No, not for me but broad strokes I still like what they are doing.

I just wish they would look to make the curve a little steeper both going into the bottom and coming out. Right now the three most effective forwards on the team are 36, 35 and 34. So just to tread water, those three need to be replaced, And then to actually become a contender, you need to build an entire first line. That is still a lot of skill they need to find and develop.

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Dallas has some nice pieces, they would make a good trade partner.

The 2027 1st and Emil Hemming would be a good starting point.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

This. And Kuzmenko who they were able to turn into a third round pick.

I guess if you squint you can say the flames got younger by that trade because of Kuzmenko. But he was leaving anyway and it ignores the draft capital given up.

I was still fine with the trade but I can understand some not liking it given where the Flames are in their rebuild.

I thought Bingo said it perfectly a few weeks ago. The Flames are definitely in a rebuild. Are they doing it exactly how I wished they would? No, not for me but broad strokes I still like what they are doing.

I just wish they would look to make the curve a little steeper both going into the bottom and coming out. Right now the three most effective forwards on the team are 36, 35 and 34. So just to tread water, those three need to be replaced, And then to actually become a contender, you need to build an entire first line. That is still a lot of skill they need to find and develop.

All three will be replaced - just not instantly. It's probably impossible to do so.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Sharks have no incentive to trade assets for a player like Ras if they think they could get him July 1. Sharks org is playing with house money, their pipeline is full and Macklin is the real deal and elite at both ends of the ice.

They can draft any position of need.

The market can attract top UFA talent easily.

I guess I would be surprised if this is how the Sharks handle the situation.

Drafting a #1RD would take years. Even if they get someone in the 2026 top 10 (Chase Reid), they are likely 4+ years away from being a legitimate top pair D. They could literally acquire Andersson now, have him be the #1RD immediately, and draft a RD to replace Andersson on the top pair in ~5 years.

It is easy to generically say they can attract the UFAs, but the UFA pool gets weaker and weaker as teams re-sign and keep their players. If they miss on Andersson this year then are pinning their hopes on Carlson (assuming he doesn't stay with the Caps) or Raddysh??? They could pretend they are going to attract Makar in 2027, but I doubt he makes it to UFA...

It seems odd to me that Grier would go out and make moves to secure a goalie like Askarov and address that positional need but then sit on his hands and let his D group waste years of his core roster just because he is now not willing to make a trade to solidify his weakest position.

If they were not a bottom 4 team defensively (136 goals against) they would likely have a divisional playoff spot instead of sitting on the WC bubble. They would benefit a lot from Andersson and probably Coleman too (and obviously Kadri as well).