2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Not sure I agree. Coleman and Backlund always help players on their line. Young player - put them with those two. Struggling player - put them with those two. I don't know how you measure the value of that - but there is value.

And if they don't trade him this year, they can trade him at the deadline next year. Hard to know what the value difference would be.

To be clear, I'm in favor of dealing him. But it's not insanity to keep him for some of those reasons.

All of that may be true to whatever extent, but it doesn't change the fact that there is no business case for keeping him. The post I quoted was making a claim that trading Coleman is bad for business. That claim holds no water.

Coleman the player is great. He and backlund provide very favorable conditions for their linemen. No disputing that. There's no real body of evidence that the player becomes better once they leave their line and that there's some down stream effect of improving the team through mentorship, but I even but into that in a small way.

[Yeah_Baby]

I may have found a secondary market Weegar jersey. So let's preemptively add him to the trade board.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, there's a huge blind spot here. The choices aren't trade or let walk for nothing. There's another choice, which is, in fact, what most teams do, which is extend.

It seems from the outside that the flames would have extended some of these guys if many of them weren't either ready to move to a contender or wanting an extra million or two a year over market to stay here. Markstrom they felt wolf was ready, lindholm, zadorov and andersson wanted a brinks truck to stay in Calgary i feel like the team would have kept those guys if they could. The players spout nonsense like andersson saying he wants to be here and it takes two to tango while asking for 9x8. That's not really a choice for the flames to give rasmus andersson 72 million bucks half a year removed from the season he had last year

Look I give them credit for making reasonable moves and retooling a bit it is refreshing after all the years of poor asset mgmt. For me though now they've made 1 trade since June 2024, the kuzmenko frost deal and any rebuild seema to have stagnated as a team stuck in no man's land. Im not super bothered by it as the andersson and coleman situations will be forced on them. But would I prefer for them to lean into bottoming out a bit more assertively and getting better picks and more of them heck ya I would. I would enjoy watching a weaker younger team with more potential upside a lot more. But I get thats not for everybody so im not at all saying guys who hate the idea of getting more aggressive or "tanking" are bad fans or cheering the wrong way.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They wouldn't have walked - most would have extended. Markstrom had term. So did Toffoli. Zadorov wanted to stay, didn't get an offer and asked for a trade. Lindholm wanted to stay, didn't get an offer that he liked (on purpose IMO). Tanev wanted to stay, didn't want to stay for one year only. The Flames could have easily given him a multi year deal but didn't.

This should be stickied to evey page of this thread

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They wouldn't have walked - most would have extended. Markstrom had term. So did Toffoli. Zadorov wanted to stay, didn't get an offer and asked for a trade. Lindholm wanted to stay, didn't get an offer that he liked (on purpose IMO). Tanev wanted to stay, didn't want to stay for one year only. The Flames could have easily given him a multi year deal but didn't.

Of course, if you are willing to give more than anybody else then they would stay

That says nothing.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Of course, if you are willing to give more than anybody else then they would stay

That says nothing.

It says Conroy wasn’t willing to overpay.

And he was right about every one of those contracts in hindsight.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They wouldn't have walked - most would have extended. Markstrom had term. So did Toffoli. Zadorov wanted to stay, didn't get an offer and asked for a trade. Lindholm wanted to stay, didn't get an offer that he liked (on purpose IMO). Tanev wanted to stay, didn't want to stay for one year only. The Flames could have easily given him a multi year deal but didn't.

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

It says Conroy wasn’t willing to overpay.

And he was right about every one of those contracts in hindsight.

Probably 90% of the UFA signings are bad. I am not giving Conroy any credit for being right on that

The only credit he gets is the team is not in the position to sign them due to how badly the wizard ####ed up the team

Conroy will be judge on the rebuild only

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by saillias

Probably because everyone's going a little stir crazy for news but there's nothing to share

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

It’s permissible for Calgary to draft at the top and have multiple picks as well.

I am not certain why if the Flames fall to the bottom due to trading Andersson, Coleman and Kadri they don’t even more darts plus some potential bullseyes.

It’s certainly not either/or. Calgary can have the “best of both worlds”, like Hannah Montana.

I didn't even know she was draft eligible this year.

[Hoop27]

If no one is willing to pay the price Connie wants for Rasmus is 8x9 with limited trade protection really a bad deal for the Flames considering how much the cap is rising?
Devil's advocate in me thinks Bruz is competent but who knows what he is long term even more so from Parekh.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Matty81

It seems from the outside that the flames would have extended some of these guys if many of them weren't either ready to move to a contender or wanting an extra million or two a year over market to stay here. Markstrom they felt wolf was ready, lindholm, zadorov and andersson wanted a brinks truck to stay in Calgary i feel like the team would have kept those guys if they could. The players spout nonsense like andersson saying he wants to be here and it takes two to tango while asking for 9x8. That's not really a choice for the flames to give rasmus andersson 72 million bucks half a year removed from the season he had last year

Look I give them credit for making reasonable moves and retooling a bit it is refreshing after all the years of poor asset mgmt. For me though now they've made 1 trade since June 2024, the kuzmenko frost deal and any rebuild seema to have stagnated as a team stuck in no man's land. Im not super bothered by it as the andersson and coleman situations will be forced on them. But would I prefer for them to lean into bottoming out a bit more assertively and getting better picks and more of them heck ya I would. I would enjoy watching a weaker younger team with more potential upside a lot more. But I get thats not for everybody so im not at all saying guys who hate the idea of getting more aggressive or "tanking" are bad fans or cheering the wrong way.

The Kuzmenko-Frost deal made them younger and added a player who could be part of the rebuild, as opposed to Kuzmenko.

Basically you are making up reasons and deciding that players were giving lip service to wanting to stay because it fits your narrative. That's mighty handy.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I am not giving Conroy any credit for being right on that

Oh no I'm sure he will be devastated by that.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Probably 90% of the UFA signings are bad. I am not giving Conroy any credit for being right on that

The only credit he gets is the team is not in the position to sign them due to how badly the wizard ####ed up the team

Conroy will be judge on the rebuild only

Flames have made some really good UFA signings that have also been traded or become our best trade chips after years of good service

Deals that certain posters complained about at the time

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The Kuzmenko-Frost deal made them younger and added a player who could be part of the rebuild, as opposed to Kuzmenko.

Basically you are making up reasons and deciding that players were giving lip service to wanting to stay because it fits your narrative. That's mighty handy.

This goes back to the original point I was making which is people making up an arbitrary goal which, if hit by management, would absolve them of blame for missing out on a top 5 pick.

You look back at the last couple years of moves and the same people who bend over backwards to blame management or give no credit are now saying “oh, just a couple more trades and we won’t be able to blame management anymore.”

It’s just obviously a lie lol.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The Kuzmenko-Frost deal made them younger and added a player who could be part of the rebuild, as opposed to Kuzmenko.

Basically you are making up reasons and deciding that players were giving lip service to wanting to stay because it fits your narrative. That's mighty handy.

Frost was traded for a second round pick and taking on the Farabee contract.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Frost was traded for a second round pick and taking on the Farabee contract.

Farabee was less than half a season removed from a career high 50pts in a rising cap world I don’t think he would have been the negative asset you are making him out to be.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Hoop27

If no one is willing to pay the price Connie wants for Rasmus is 8x9 with limited trade protection really a bad deal for the Flames considering how much the cap is rising?
Devil's advocate in me thinks Bruz is competent but who knows what he is long term even more so from Parekh.

Yes for many reasons. Chiefly, signing andersson without securing a game breaking talent through the draft at this point will probably lock us into finishing middle of the pack for the next few years at minimum.

Further, between weegar, parekh, bzru, Mews, and maybe other prospects the flames have the most depth in the system at RD.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Frost was traded for a second round pick and taking on the Farabee contract.

Yes, and? You can't draft a better player with a second round pick in all probability, and Farabee is no liability to a rebuild.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

It says Conroy wasn’t willing to overpay.

And he was right about every one of those contracts in hindsight.

It’s very easy to be right about UFA contracts, the majority are too much money or for too long or some mix of both. Take a look at the list of 2024 UFAs and their AAVs, that was a great summer to put your phone on airplane mode.

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/_/year/2024

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

It’s very easy to be right about UFA contracts, the majority are too much money or for too long or some mix of both. Take a look at the list of 2024 UFAs and their AAVs, that was a great summer to put your phone on airplane mode.

https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/_/year/2024

Looking at that list does Tanev even have 6 years left in him ?