07-14-2022, 01:17 PM
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#1761
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Johnny was never signing here. That much is extremely clear, not sure how anyone can feel different? lol at Murray edwards or brad being mean to him making him not come back, get real.
This is like when your girlfriend dumps you and you delude yourself that if you had just gone to that party with her that one time she would have felt different. No. It was never happening. Stop it.
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Or maybe just like Treliving, his agent, people close to the family, and Gaudreau have all said it was a very tough decision, it was 50/50, and it really came down to Tuesday.
I dont get why people think this must have been some conniving plan by Gaudreau and his agent to leave Calgary holding the bag and drive up his own value...to only then throw away all leverage by publically saying it wasn't about money and it was a family decision and then taking less money in what I still think was not his preferred location.
You really tricked us Gaudreau!
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07-14-2022, 01:18 PM
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#1762
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
I am having a hard time believing Johnny was that unhappy with the organization and no one in the media or anywhere else picked this up.
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The organization definitely had no clue.
Maybe switching teams is a bigger deal to us than it is to him. Of course then there's the money... WTF?
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07-14-2022, 01:18 PM
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#1763
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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Murray Edwards is the owner or one of them and we’re talking about a lot of money here, them being involved is a given regardless of what or how they negotiate. Was he a meanie, who knows?
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07-14-2022, 01:19 PM
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#1764
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
I think the press conference leads me to believe that Johnny wanted to stay. His wife didn't and he can't throw her under the bus. But he talks about "we" and "best for us". That's why the squirming. That's why the changing of minds. I think he really wanted to come back, but ultimately they made the decision together.
Why Johnny wife wanted out is anyone's speculation. But she must have really hated someone in Calgary. Maybe the ghost of johnny's past. Maybe some of the wives. Maybe some of the players. Maybe some of the exes.
Johnny probably thought the money could convince her to stay. But it didn't. She wanted to start a new life together. anywhere else but Calgary
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These are all wild guesses but he did have the same helpless stare as when Paul McCartney was with that crazy eco-ex-wife at the Canadian press conference together about why there were trying to prevent the Inuit from doing their traditional seal hunt. He totally was not into it but he couldn't do anything but toe the line with his wife's ranting about how Stephen Harper needs to stop the killing of Harp seals.
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07-14-2022, 01:19 PM
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#1765
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Again, it's all pure speculation. But maybe, similar to that Trouba article, Johnny and his wife really took a look at what is best for both of them, and not just for Johnny's hockey career. 7 or 8 years is a long time to commit to a city, they took this as an opportunity to really pick where they want to settle and raise a family, and still play for a competitive team. Perhaps his wife really does have a lot better career opportunities in Columbus. Yes, they potentially left millions on the table, but it's not like Johnny isn't making a ton of money regardless of where he signs. He's still making $68M in the next 7 years. To him, sacrificing some money was worth it for the sake of family happiness. I don't see any fault in that.
And despite all of a sudden all the newfound CBJ haters coming on board, I don't think there's that much difference in team potential between them and the Flames in the long run. The Jackets have a lot of up and coming talent and could very well be the next Florida in a couple of years where the pieces all start clicking and they turn into a perennial playoff team.
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07-14-2022, 01:20 PM
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#1766
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Press Level
He has a blue checkmark next to his name, therefore his opinion is important.
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I'd like everyone to keep this important point in mind going forward. Also, thanks for the new sig!
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07-14-2022, 01:21 PM
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#1767
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
So you're arguing that family ties are stronger now than they were a year ago? Okay then.
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No, it was the same, it’s just now he has the ability to receive offers from teams close to his hometown which clearly would’ve been very enticing for what Johnny values. Throw in a pregnant wife now instead of just a fiance at the time and yeah, things might have changed a bit.
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07-14-2022, 01:22 PM
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#1768
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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A typical nurse makes 100-150k/year
I don’t think throwing away 15M so she can work in a better hospital is a real reason.
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07-14-2022, 01:22 PM
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#1769
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Burmis Tree
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
First of all, there is little doubt her opinion/desires/career were important, and part of the decision. I mean, obviously.
But the argument that he chose Columbus because there is a great hospital there is still a really weak one IMO - there is a great children's hospital in every big city (or at the very least, many). Would it have been a bonus? Sure, no doubt. But I doubt Gaudreau chose the Jackets because of a hospital in town.
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Plus, most likely, the next year she will be off on mat leave so there is a year of employment gone (at min), if they only have one child. I would guess that over the course of his contract there is 4 years max of employment at said children hospital. So not as big as an incentive when you start raising a young family over the next few years.
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07-14-2022, 01:22 PM
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#1770
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Again, it's all pure speculation. But maybe, similar to that Trouba article, Johnny and his wife really took a look at what is best for both of them, and not just for Johnny's hockey career. 7 or 8 years is a long time to commit to a city, they took this as an opportunity to really pick where they want to settle and raise a family, and still play for a competitive team. Perhaps his wife really does have a lot better career opportunities in Columbus. Yes, they potentially left millions on the table, but it's not like Johnny isn't making a ton of money regardless of where he signs. He's still making $68M in the next 7 years. To him, sacrificing some money was worth it for the sake of family happiness. I don't see any fault in that.
And despite all of a sudden all the newfound CBJ haters coming on board, I don't think there's that much difference in team potential between them and the Flames in the long run. The Jackets have a lot of up and coming talent and could very well be the next Florida in a couple of years where the pieces all start clicking and they turn into a perennial playoff team.
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The CBJ stuff is just having fun and nothing they are years away.
No one is faulting the decision he made. They are faulting how it came about. Trouba at the very least seems like he made his desire clear at an early stage.
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07-14-2022, 01:23 PM
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#1772
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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who is actually hating on CBJ? I'm not mad at them one bit. On the contrary, they've experienced the same thing with Panarin a couple of years ago, so good on them.
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07-14-2022, 01:24 PM
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#1773
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Again, it's all pure speculation. But maybe, similar to that Trouba article, Johnny and his wife really took a look at what is best for both of them, and not just for Johnny's hockey career. 7 or 8 years is a long time to commit to a city, they took this as an opportunity to really pick where they want to settle and raise a family, and still play for a competitive team. Perhaps his wife really does have a lot better career opportunities in Columbus. Yes, they potentially left millions on the table, but it's not like Johnny isn't making a ton of money regardless of where he signs. He's still making $68M in the next 7 years. To him, sacrificing some money was worth it for the sake of family happiness. I don't see any fault in that.
And despite all of a sudden all the newfound CBJ haters coming on board, I don't think there's that much difference in team potential between them and the Flames in the long run. The Jackets have a lot of up and coming talent and could very well be the next Florida in a couple of years where the pieces all start clicking and they turn into a perennial playoff team.
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Don't you know. All this is the work of an Evil Woman
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07-14-2022, 01:24 PM
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#1774
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2016
Exp:
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Originally Posted by OldDutch
No hate to JG on this but after reading the Gilbertson tweets, I think he just is a person who lacks grace and couth. A guy that just doesn't realize how a man carries himself. Which is probably related to being driven around and lavished with praise his whole life.
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I kinda thought the opposite. Johnny kept his comments vague, knowing that the negative attention will be drawn to him, thereby deflecting any attention away from his wife.
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07-14-2022, 01:26 PM
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#1775
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Scoring Winger
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Raleigh is closer to NJ than Columbus, he should have just gone there if the goal was to be close to family but no play for a bottom 5 team from last year
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07-14-2022, 01:26 PM
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#1776
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Again, it's all pure speculation. But maybe, similar to that Trouba article, Johnny and his wife really took a look at what is best for both of them, and not just for Johnny's hockey career. 7 or 8 years is a long time to commit to a city, they took this as an opportunity to really pick where they want to settle and raise a family, and still play for a competitive team. Perhaps his wife really does have a lot better career opportunities in Columbus. Yes, they potentially left millions on the table, but it's not like Johnny isn't making a ton of money regardless of where he signs. He's still making $68M in the next 7 years. To him, sacrificing some money was worth it for the sake of family happiness. I don't see any fault in that.
And despite all of a sudden all the newfound CBJ haters coming on board, I don't think there's that much difference in team potential between them and the Flames in the long run. The Jackets have a lot of up and coming talent and could very well be the next Florida in a couple of years where the pieces all start clicking and they turn into a perennial playoff team.
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I don't hate Columbus, I just keep forgetting they have an NHL team.
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07-14-2022, 01:26 PM
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#1777
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Again, it's all pure speculation. But maybe, similar to that Trouba article, Johnny and his wife really took a look at what is best for both of them, and not just for Johnny's hockey career. 7 or 8 years is a long time to commit to a city, they took this as an opportunity to really pick where they want to settle and raise a family, and still play for a competitive team. Perhaps his wife really does have a lot better career opportunities in Columbus. Yes, they potentially left millions on the table, but it's not like Johnny isn't making a ton of money regardless of where he signs. He's still making $68M in the next 7 years. To him, sacrificing some money was worth it for the sake of family happiness. I don't see any fault in that.
And despite all of a sudden all the newfound CBJ haters coming on board, I don't think there's that much difference in team potential between them and the Flames in the long run. The Jackets have a lot of up and coming talent and could very well be the next Florida in a couple of years where the pieces all start clicking and they turn into a perennial playoff team.
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Isn't she a nurse at a children's hospital?
I know that an hour and a half down the road (Cincinatti) has one of the best Children's hospital's in the US. Seems kinda far to commute though.
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07-14-2022, 01:26 PM
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#1778
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
A typical nurse makes 100-150k/year
I don’t think throwing away 15M so she can work in a better hospital is a real reason.
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Maybe the work she’s doing means a lot to her, more so than money, which is a possibility.
I mean, they’re already millionaires. Johnny will have amassed over $110M in his career, does it really matter whether it’s $110M or $120M?
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07-14-2022, 01:27 PM
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#1779
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
A typical nurse makes 100-150k/year
I don’t think throwing away 15M so she can work in a better hospital is a real reason.
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This is shortsighted. Money isn't everything, many spouses want their own fulfilling career and not just be a trophy sports wife blowing his money and chasing celebrity. In that sense she's probably a great catch for him in terms of long term happiness and stability.
If you gave me the choice between $15M and the perfect spouse I would choose the latter.
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07-14-2022, 01:28 PM
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#1780
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Leaving this here:
“Calgary has been a second home to me,” Gaudreau said. “I love playing there. I love my teammates there. I love the city. The fans are awesome. It’s a team that I could see myself playing for for the remainder of my career, and I’ve always said that. I know a lot of people have speculations of me wanting to go back east, but I just feel really comfortable where I’m at — with the teammates there, the coaching staff, with Brad (Treliving), the management, the owners …
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“Throughout my whole time there, I’ve been treated really well. I love the city. It’s been a blast playing there the past six years. It’s unfortunate we haven’t reached the end-goal that we’ve wanted in the past, but it’s been a second home to me. My family loves it there. My girlfriend likes being there. It’s a special place for us.”
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