Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I’m willing to give him a chance, and I suspect he will now revert to more centrist policy now that he has the party. If he does he will mop the floor. People saying Poilievre doesn’t know what he’s doing but Trudeau does? LOL.

The bitcoin thing isn’t happening and that would be political suicide to continue sticking to that idiocy so it won’t happen. Same with all the other usual boogeyman #### people try to stick to cons. See what he has to say from here on out to form opinions, the rest of it to this point was just pandering to the conservative side only to win the party.

O’Toole was more of a centrist when he won the leadership than when he ran as the leader against Trudeau. I have doubts.

Originally Posted by StickMan

I think this country needs major change. Cherest would be like Trudeau lite. I think Canada needs to try something completely different, I have no issues giving Pierre a chance, nothing could be worse the Trudeau/Jagmeet disaster.

Of course you don’t have any problem with PP. You’re even more blindly partisan than I am. Let’s not play pretend games like a posting history doesn’t exist.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I’m willing to give him a chance, and I suspect he will now revert to more centrist policy now that he has the party. If he does he will mop the floor. People saying Poilievre doesn’t know what he’s doing but Trudeau does? LOL.

The bitcoin thing isn’t happening and that would be political suicide to continue sticking to that idiocy so it won’t happen. Same with all the other usual boogeyman #### people try to stick to cons. See what he has to say from here on out to form opinions, the rest of it to this point was just pandering to the conservative side only to win the party.

The difference between a lot of the fear-mongering tactics and Polievre though, is that Pierre says all this stuff on his own. The attack ads are just Pierre’s campaign stops and saying dumb things. I’m not even talking about all the photos with white supremacists and other ne’er do wells. I’m thinking of his comments about the Bank of Canada and things like that.

[Izzle]

Without a shadow of a doubt Trudeau is better than PP. Another government formed by Trudeau. Kind of amazing.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I’m willing to give him a chance, and I suspect he will now revert to more centrist policy now that he has the party. If he does he will mop the floor. People saying Poilievre doesn’t know what he’s doing but Trudeau does? LOL.

The bitcoin thing isn’t happening and that would be political suicide to continue sticking to that idiocy so it won’t happen. Same with all the other usual boogeyman #### people try to stick to cons. See what he has to say from here on out to form opinions, the rest of it to this point was just pandering to the conservative side only to win the party.

I think the majority of Canadians, when they get to know him, will be pleasantly surprised.

I was also impressed with his wife.

[PepsiFree]

PP has been in the government for over 15 years.

“Once you get to know him” lol like one speech? Come on.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I’m willing to give him a chance, and I suspect he will now revert to more centrist policy now that he has the party. If he does he will mop the floor. People saying Poilievre doesn’t know what he’s doing but Trudeau does? LOL.

The bitcoin thing isn’t happening and that would be political suicide to continue sticking to that idiocy so it won’t happen. Same with all the other usual boogeyman #### people try to stick to cons. See what he has to say from here on out to form opinions, the rest of it to this point was just pandering to the conservative side only to win the party.

I think that that is exactly what is going to happen.

If nothing else, I look forward to PP destroying Trudeau during the leadership debates on national TV.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I think the majority of Canadians, when they get to know him, will be pleasantly surprised.

I was also impressed with his wife.

This is some hail mary kind of crap. lol

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I think the majority of Canadians, when they get to know him, will be pleasantly surprised.

I was also impressed with his wife.

Yes, you are definitely right. I too think the majority of Canadians will be very surprised to learn more about the new Leader of the Conservative Party, like how he once used the racist term "tar babies" in the House of Commons, how he proudly associates with the Freedumb Convoy, and how he said of Residential School survivors that they just needed to "work harder" instead of getting compensation (a comment he made mere hours after former-PM Stephen Harper issued a historical apology for the Residential Schools). Yup, you sure have have the pulse of Canadians.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Yes, you are definitely right. I too think the majority of Canadians will be very surprised to learn more about the new Leader of the Conservative Party, like how he once used the racist term "tar babies" in the House of Commons, how he proudly associates with the Freedumb Convoy, and how he said of Residential School survivors that they just needed to "work harder" instead of getting compensation (a comment he made mere hours after former-PM Stephen Harper issued a historical apology for the Residential Schools). Yup, you sure have have the pulse of Canadians.

So essentially, Pierre = Justin but without the hair?

[getbak]

For a bunch of people who carry signs that say "##### TRUDEAU", they sure love handing him the government on a silver platter.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

So essentially, Pierre = Justin but without the hair?

Even Trudeau wasn't dumb enough to suggest firing the BoC governor or moving the currency to Bitcoin. Finance was PP's portfolio and he messed it up. How would he handle everything else? On that note Trudeau> pp

[b1crunch]

I personally find Trudeau and Poilievre to both be unlikable characters.

I know many find Poilievre to be terrible and can't see him winning over most Canadians, but I think he'll have a major advantage in the next federal election. That being, we likely aren't going to see an election called until closer to 2025. By that point, the Liberals will have been in power for a decade. That is a relatively long time in Canadian politics, and it stands to reason that the Conservatives might win the next election. Not because Poilievre is amazing, but because the country is ready for change. Trudeau and the Liberals will have run their course and Canadians might be ready for a different perspective.

[Locke]

Unfortunately the way Politics is trending lately I'm afraid that people expecting Poilievre to end up being something other than what he's telling us he is are going to be sorely disappointed.

In the past Politicians at least had the goddamned common decency to lie to your face, get elected and then break their promises.

Now they scream into your face what they are, people lap it up and elect them and then get off when they get nothing in return but BS. And...they're happy about it.

We are turning into Idiocracy.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Impressive speech by Pierre and his wife. Say what you want about the guy, but he’s certainly an effective communicator.

If the first you saw of him was tonight’s speech he would come off very reasonable. Ultimately in the election he will have to atone for some really dumb crap he’s said at different points in the leadership campaign (bitcoin and bank of Canada stuff at the top of the list for me), but let’s be honest he’s running against someone who has said and done a whole lot of dumb crap himself.

For those who insist it was ‘far right’ I would implore them to suggest what part actually was. Was it when he advocated for transit oriented development in cities so young people don’t need to also afford a car? Was it when he said it didn’t matter if you were named Smith or Singh? Was it when he said he wanted to make it easier for new immigrants to work in their respective fields by testing what they know rather than void their foreign qualifications?

Where’s the burning crosses? Where’s the build the wall with Mexico paying for it? Where’s the ‘they aren’t sending us their best’ ‘they are rapists’ MAGA crap?

[Ozy_Flame]

Did he talk about crypto, firing the Bank of Canada, and condemn his shoulder rubbing with ultra-right extremists?

Or did he do his scheduled talking points to sound less abrasive and more centrist in his victory speech?

I didn't watch it, but I know which one I expect to hear.

[calculoso]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1568760392398274560

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by getbak

For a bunch of people who carry signs that say "##### TRUDEAU", they sure love handing him the government on a silver platter.

We were back in Canada a month ago and my Kiwi gf was asking me what was with all the F Trudeau signs.

Hats off to them for taking a side I guess.

[FurnaceFace]

I would identify myself as a progressive, with some fiscally conservative views. I will not be voting for the CPC for some time, if ever again.

PP aligned himself with the factions of that party which I very much do not agree with at all and don’t represent the values I hold important. Electing him feels extremely dangerous to me and down a path I don’t agree with.

[dammage79]

I've listened to some intriguing speeches by Polliverr in the past (well before the stupid freedom trucker stuff and the dangerous precipice of pandering to hard right ideologies) and found him favorable to the point where I would have tossed a vote his way.

But the hard right pandering losses my vote. Even if it was a ploy to win votes to get the leadership and he'll bail on them now that he's gotten what he needed out of it.

Sucks. I was really hoping for Charest.

Now let's hope this doesn't blow up in the country's face one way or the other.

[CaptainCrunch]

I don't think it was a bad speech, it had non of the crazy elements and focused on the economy. I think his wife did a good job.

Will I vote for him, probably not, but we have some time before we have to decide.

Charest didn't run a good campaign at all, I'd class it as the last thing that he needed which was a quiet uninspiring campaign.

Right now for people like me there are zero parties to vote for. The Liberals are corrupt and incompetant, and Justin is just a fundementally unlikable arrogant and dishonest person, and his cabinet members have followed him a little to hard.

PP I don't trust, I don't need a far right social element with a hard mix of conspiracy.

Jagmeet I have no interest in voting for the NDP.

Green Party is dead, they just lost their president, and has become the party of lunatics.

Max LOL

People like me have been marginalized by the actual political system of Canada and I'm not even interested in plugging my nose and voting for the least terrible party.