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Old 06-08-2022, 07:41 PM   #1741
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no words really when I heard about this...



"Murica" is really messed up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...led-JR-15.html
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Old 06-09-2022, 10:06 AM   #1742
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The more accounts that come out about the Texas shooting, the more I want to see some police charged. Early on there were seven (I believe) cops outside of the class while kids were still alive in 211, and later nineteen cops outside while there was an active shooter in 212. They took their vests, body armour, handguns, rifles, tasers and credibility and crawled away. Teams of cops dressed and armed to storm the Kremlin stood outside as crowd control so that the murderer could do his work unobstructed.

I believe that the US system of justice and punishment is a mess, but the two officers in charge both times inside the school and the officer in charge outside of the school should all see the inside of a jail cell. Incredible display of bad judgement and cowardice.
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I believe that the US system of justice and punishment is a mess, but the two officers in charge both times inside the school and the officer in charge outside of the school should all see the inside of a jail cell. Incredible display of bad judgement and cowardice.


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Old 06-09-2022, 11:56 AM   #1744
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Worth the watch. Those poor, innocent children.

I just got a chance to watch this, and it is super sad. At first I was like wow another actor just trying to raise his profile, but this is not the case. In fact, I'm glad it was an actor delivering this message because it was flawless.

Super sad all around.
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Old 06-09-2022, 04:25 PM   #1745
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These damn cops in Uvalde.

So, one mom who ran into the school and took her two kids out of the school, has been threatened by the police that if she continues to share her story, since she is on probation, they will make sure she gets more problems with her past.

Seriously. I've stopped trusting cops to do the right thing a long time ago, and the tons of terrible stuff coming out of this event around the cops during and after the event make me sick.

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Old 06-09-2022, 05:42 PM   #1746
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All I’m going to say is you wouldn’t see this in a major police department in Alberta. That’s not how cops are trained and it’s not how cops would react in an active shooter here.
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All I’m going to say is you wouldn’t see this in a major police department in Alberta. That’s not how cops are trained and it’s not how cops would react in an active shooter here.
We had an active shooter in parliament and the police went toe to toe, and the Sergeant-at-Arms decided to play John McClane IRL to end it.

I'm not sure about Alberta cops particularly the RCMP, heck if the shooter is a member of the Proud Boys, they might not see anything.
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Old 06-10-2022, 12:44 AM   #1748
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3 more killed in a mass shooting in Maryland today. The 254th mass shooting of the year in the US.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/us/ma...ine/index.html
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All I’m going to say is you wouldn’t see this in a major police department in Alberta. That’s not how cops are trained and it’s not how cops would react in an active shooter here.
Yeah, my buddies are cops (CPS) and one was a former TAC team member, the other trained with them but didn't want the job. They both said that the most basic, standard CPS procedure is to secure the perimeter and go in right away.
This was pretty much a standardized procedure after Columbine that most, if not all, PDs across North America adopted, and the Uvalde cops fudged it up pretty bad.

Their take, based on the initial info coming out, is that heads should definitely roll down there.
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Yeah, my buddies are cops (CPS) and one was a former TAC team member, the other trained with them but didn't want the job. They both said that the most basic, standard CPS procedure is to secure the perimeter and go in right away.
This was pretty much a standardized procedure after Columbine that most, if not all, PDs across North America adopted, and the Uvalde cops fudged it up pretty bad.

Their take, based on the initial info coming out, is that heads should definitely roll down there.
How many white collar fraud courses did he take in forensic accounting?

I moved away from Calgary in 2011 and I can't think of a single active shooter situation in Calgary, but I can definitely think of a few major Ponzi schemes that were run.

Gotta stop funding these wanna be Rambo's and go to a community policing model for the CPS.
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How many white collar fraud courses did he take in forensic accounting?

I moved away from Calgary in 2011 and I can't think of a single active shooter situation in Calgary, but I can definitely think of a few major Ponzi schemes that were run.

Gotta stop funding these wanna be Rambo's and go to a community policing model for the CPS.
The TAC team does a lot more than just this. They are probably deployed on an almost daily basis in some form.
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Old 06-11-2022, 03:15 PM   #1752
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Not so new normal.

https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/...0-a58cb2b7a45f

According to a Houston County incident report, last Wednesday night, an 18-year-old white man visited during their church service. The congregation is predominantly Black and members had never seen this man before.

According to the Head of Church Security Ezra Wyche, the man acted strangely, so they took a picture of his car and checked his Facebook page.

"Because of the Facebook message, we had information we could look at and that's what brought us to the point where we were," Wyche said.

His online profile showed photographs of a rifle and a caption, "I'm no criminal, but if I'm gunna commit a crime, I'm only targeting gun-free zones."

"The young man described his politics as extreme, but said he wouldn't hurt anybody. The report says he did not explain why he visited the church.
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Old 06-11-2022, 04:32 PM   #1753
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Gotta wonder about the vendor who sold hundreds of rounds to the kid. Sure, it may be legal for the kid to buy and it's the vendor's business to sell, but if a kid comes in on their 18th birthday and wants to buy that gun and that amount of ammo it seems pretty reasonable to refuse service or to notify the police about concerns. I wonder how that person views that transaction in retrospect with all those dead kids.
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Gotta wonder about the vendor who sold hundreds of rounds to the kid. Sure, it may be legal for the kid to buy and it's the vendor's business to sell, but if a kid comes in on their 18th birthday and wants to buy that gun and that amount of ammo it seems pretty reasonable to refuse service or to notify the police about concerns. I wonder how that person views that transaction in retrospect with all those dead kids.
I dont disagree with you in premise, but realistically...its not the shopkeeper's responsibility, as long as he does his duty by law. I mean, otherwise this kid is just going to go to Wal-Mart or whatever.

And as for alerting the Cops? Look at what we're seeing in Uvalde and across the US in general.

You think the Cops care? You think they're going to do anything about it? The state of Policing in America is irreparably broken.
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Old 06-11-2022, 05:21 PM   #1755
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You think the Cops care? You think they're going to do anything about it? The state of Policing in America is irreparably broken.
If anything these tragedies have brought everybody together on the “defund the police”.
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If anything these tragedies have brought everybody together on the “defund the police”.
May as well. I mean, I read how much Uvalde spends of their annual budget on the most useless Cops on Earth.

And this after years of Police brutality and then when people protested Police Brutality in all their Wisdom the Cops decided that now was the time to crank their nonsense up to 11.
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Defunding the police is still extremely unpopular. Much of the U.S. has been enduring a crime wave. It doesn’t make the news here in Canada, but it’s a top political issue for many Americans. As of a few months ago, far more Americans wanted spending on police increased (47 per cent) than want it decreased (15). I doubt the Uvalde shootings have changed that.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...in-their-area/

Politicians associated with defunding the police - or being soft on crime in general - are getting thumped in local elections. It’s a big problem for Democrats.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...t-in-november/
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I dont disagree with you in premise, but realistically...its not the shopkeeper's responsibility, as long as he does his duty by law. I mean, otherwise this kid is just going to go to Wal-Mart or whatever.

And as for alerting the Cops? Look at what we're seeing in Uvalde and across the US in general.

You think the Cops care? You think they're going to do anything about it? The state of Policing in America is irreparably broken.
I'm not assigning blame to the vendor, just wondering about how someone can hand over an AR-15 and hundreds of rounds of live ammo to some random kid on his 18th birthday and feel everything seems fine. I guess any vendor probably deals with lots of nuts and nothing generally goes wrong, but a kid showing up and asking for that gun and that ammo seems like a mental alarm bell situation. It's probably just too alien a culture for me to really empathize with.
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I'm not assigning blame to the vendor, just wondering about how someone can hand over an AR-15 and hundreds of rounds of live ammo to some random kid on his 18th birthday and feel everything seems fine. I guess any vendor probably deals with lots of nuts and nothing generally goes wrong, but a kid showing up and asking for that gun and that ammo seems like a mental alarm bell situation. It's probably just too alien a culture for me to really empathize with.
This is probably a normal event and a core part of the business. It likely didn't raise any flags, because of how commonly it happens.
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This is probably a normal event and a core part of the business. It likely didn't raise any flags, because of how commonly it happens.
Yeah, it sounds completely abnormal to us. To them, it's a Tuesday. Another day, another sale.
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