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Old 07-26-2024, 12:20 PM   #17401
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Just my opinion. Also, a note on Andy Beshear - I initially thought he would help the Dems offset some of the Vance appeal to the southern working class initially and help win Georgia again, but actually Vance seems to have no such appeal and watching Beshear I just don't think he's ready for the national stage. It's a bit of an "aw shucks" version of Beto O'Rourke. Doesn't seem like the right pick But I freely admit that I don't know much about him.
He seems like a smart guy and likeable, but kind of subdued and I hate to say it, but boring. I mean, boring should be good for a governing politician IMO, but I don't think boring helps this election. He might be a good candidate in the future, but probably not against a Trump ticket.
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Old 07-26-2024, 12:23 PM   #17402
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lol that is nuts, I would have guessed he was way older
It's truly a testament to how great Kamala Harris looks. How is she almost 60?

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Old 07-26-2024, 12:25 PM   #17403
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Decent shot he goes down as the worst VP pick ever.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1816791423053681137
He definitely wouldn't have been picked if Biden was out before the RNC.
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Old 07-26-2024, 12:27 PM   #17404
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Unions don’t love Kelly so that’s a big knock against him, but he’s changed his tune in the last couple days. Shapiro fought with his public schools and has been backtracking hard. Walz seems good but is Minnesota worth it if you’re gonna get it anyway?

Depends on your school of thought for the VP pick but I’d imagine Shapiro should be the front runner now with how critical Pennsylvania is. I’m sure the polling between those three is going bananas right now
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I think one of the minuses for Kelly is that he probably had the best odds of holding the Dem Senate seat in Arizona in '26. Next man up probably starts with a 60-40 disadvantage to overcome, while Kelly is probably hovering just above 50-50.
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Unions don’t love Kelly so that’s a big knock against him, but he’s changed his tune in the last couple days. Shapiro fought with his public schools and has been backtracking hard. Walz seems good but is Minnesota worth it if you’re gonna get it anyway?

Depends on your school of thought for the VP pick but I’d imagine Shapiro should be the front runner now with how critical Pennsylvania is. I’m sure the polling between those three is going bananas right now
I am not sure if the US is ready for a ticket that that doesn't have a white Christian straight man on it. I am not even convinced they are ready for Harris.
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I think one of the minuses for Kelly is that he probably had the best odds of holding the Dem Senate seat in Arizona in '26. Next man up probably starts with a 60-40 disadvantage to overcome, while Kelly is probably hovering just above 50-50.
Ordinarily that would matter but everything is a very distant priority behind taking the best possible shot at beating Donald Trump.
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I am not sure if the US is ready for a ticket that that doesn't have a white Christian straight man on it. I am not even convinced they are ready for Harris.
https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harr...ection-1930910

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I am not sure if the US is ready for a ticket that that doesn't have a white Christian straight man on it. I am not even convinced they are ready for Harris.
Yea in my personal opinion I think Harris has been fantastic since becoming the top pick, she's come out of the gates swinging and would likely make a pretty great president. I just think that middle america is too racist and misogynist for her to win. I would love to be proven wrong though
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Old 07-26-2024, 02:25 PM   #17410
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Haha that dude is totally rad. So is Hope.
I would definitely vote for this guy!
Compare him to JD for a minute
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Old 07-26-2024, 02:45 PM   #17411
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Really, she should be looking for electoral college help. There are only in my view four viable picks - I leave out Whitmer, I don't think a two woman ticket is a good idea. I've been watching videos of how all of them present themselves. In no particular order, the options are:
I think the idea that the VP shores up votes in their own state is overstated. Didn't they lose whatever state Tim Kaine was from in 2016?
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I think the idea that the VP shores up votes in their own state is overstated. Didn't they lose whatever state Tim Kaine was from in 2016?
Nope, they won Virginia... barely. No way they win it without Kaine on the ticket. And he wasn't even a particularly good campaigner.
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Nope, they won Virginia... barely. No way they win it without Kaine on the ticket. And he wasn't even a particularly good campaigner.
She won by 5%. That seems a little more than barely. I quite liked Kaine before he took that role, and he's fine now as a senator. He was annoying to listen to on the campaign trail for sure.
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Yes it is most definitely just a meme, not a legit AP piece. I guess it's just the couch sex story combined with the name Jorkin Depeanus that had me dying.
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Decent shot he goes down as the worst VP pick ever.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1816791423053681137
Wow this guy is embarrassing. Think he may be the lowest IQ VP of all time. Reminds me of a college football player who took too many head shots.
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