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Old 11-21-2024, 02:19 PM   #1701
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Not sure the Republicans were headed that way. They were on their way to Jeb Bush before Trump. Same old.
W was Trump lite. Except he was more of a Saudi guy than a Putin guy. But he still lied his ass off, gave the rich tax cuts, put people who hate particular areas in charge of those portfoliosm, etc. And W was Reagan's successor - Reagan relied on ininformed voters and ginned up issues, also ran on trickle down and ideology.
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Old 11-21-2024, 03:56 PM   #1702
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The Republicans tried to kill Trump for a reason, he is a useful idiot for them but not who they actually want in charge
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:05 PM   #1703
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:09 PM   #1704
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Cyber-Security Experts Warn Election Was Hacked

'Musk is guilty as ####'
https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyb...lection-hacked


Interesting article here, certainly sounds suspicious on first glance.


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The key data raising concerns that a hack may have been deployed is the number of bullet ballots which exist for Trump in swing states. Bullet ballots are when voters vote for one candidate—in this case the President—and don’t fill out the rest of the ballot. Every year, in every state—including in the past two elections Trump ran in—the percentage of bullet ballots is around 1%. This trend has stayed consistent in the 43 non-swing states in the 2024 election. However, the percentage of bullet ballots is not just anomalous in swing states for Trump this year—it is off the charts.
According to one of the open letters, in Arizona, Trump’s percentage of bullet ballots totaled 7.2%. In Nevada, 5.5%. In comparison, bullet ballots for Trump in Oregon, Utah and Idaho—the three states which border Arizona and Nevada, with equally fervent Trump voters—count for less than 0.05% in each state.
The same pattern continues across the other swing states, with an astonishing 11% of votes for Trump in North Carolina being bullet ballots.
“The numbers are so high to be unbelievable, unprecedented and demanding of further investigation,” writes Stephen Spoonamore, hacking and counter-hacking expert, cyber-security adviser, and government contractor.
Even more bizarrely, the bullet ballots are not widely spread out across the swing states, but targeted in a handful of counties. In Arizona, for example, Maricopa County accounts for almost all of the historic number of bullet ballots.

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You can’t create votes out of nothing. You need to vote on behalf of people registered to vote who didn’t show up to the polling booth, wrote Spoonamore in his open letter to Harris. This is where Elon Musk comes into the picture.
“I think he’s guilty as ####,” said Spoonamore.
In October, Musk announced a $1 million daily sweepstake to those pledging to vote for Trump in the swing states. Curiously, the only information requested on the pledge website was the name and address of the would-be voter: no email, no telephone number. Spoonamore claims this was how Musk built a list of voters with the details necessary to cast a vote in the USA in the correct precinct. In short, he built a second pollbook.

More discussion at the link, sure looks like smoke.
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:16 PM   #1705
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I've been following this via a friend. There is a lot of smoke.
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:20 PM   #1706
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Well ####.


The one solace I had was that we weren't going to have a constitutional crisis this time. Seems like that hope is out the window.

The one thing that remains true in politics is that the group that yells the most about what the other side does is absolutely doing that #### already.

Still need to see more on this, but that is suspicious as hell.
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:40 PM   #1707
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I did predict a while back that regardless who wins, I was thinking the losing side would take things to the courts accusing the other side of fraud with votes, voting machines, etc. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:48 PM   #1708
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I'll wait until some reliable media sources are reporting it and for some actual proof. Right now, it's just pointing out some irregularities and anomalies and coming up with possibilities of how those could have happened. There is a lack of information so they are filling in the gaps with stuff that could make sense, but there could also be other reasons.

Irregularities and anomalies exist in every election, and sometimes there is fraud. If there wasn't, they wouldn't need to keep an eye on them like they do. Most of the time, it doesn't have a tangible effect on the overall results though.
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:52 PM   #1709
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Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Of course there is a great big fire there. Can't beat then honestly. Have to cheat. It is the Trump way.
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Old 11-21-2024, 04:56 PM   #1710
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What is this Elon Muck election Fraud accusation number 10 ? LOL

suckers.
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Old 11-21-2024, 05:11 PM   #1711
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https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyb...lection-hacked


Interesting article here, certainly sounds suspicious on first glance.

More discussion at the link, sure looks like smoke.
So if typically 1% of ballots are bullet ballots and in North Carolina 11% of ballots were bullet ballots that suggests that 10% of the votes were fraudulent. If 10% of the voters fraudulently voted for trump.

There were 5.6 million votes in NC. So that’s 560k fraudulent votes. 2.9 million - 2.7 million becomes 2.35 million to 2.7million. Anyone have NC 53.5-46.5? The most Democrat leaning poll had Harris +4. No poll was Harris +7, most had Trump +1 or 2. So was polling out but 9% AND we had unprecedented voter fraud?

Josh Stein Governor crushes 55-40. Polling had him 54-40 Stein had it 50-48 Trump. The polling suggested that there should be about 10% of voters who weren’t voting for governor but voting in the presidential.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...orth-carolina/

This election turned out well within expectations.
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What is this Elon Muck election Fraud accusation number 10 ? LOL

suckers.
LOL how many posts about election fraud before with trump 100s?

How many posts have any trump supporters made to say the AG shouldn't be a sex trafficker who pays by venmo for under age girls.

Not one peep about Gaetz, just side comments and distracting so you can avoid being called on your support of predators, like the rest of trump supporters here like geo and the rest, completely silent on that nomination lol.

This next 4 years will be awesome watching all the tools who support pedos, underage child trafficking, try to change the subject.

Oh a miscarriage and she dies - no comment. Age of marry down to 16, support that!

Appreciate you helping by not posting one comment about how Gaetz, the child trafficker buying under age prostitutes. Sick, i really don't get why you are so happy, but I am not in favor of 16 and 17 year old prostitution. Though I am ok to say it instead of you guys, and yes you must be men lol. And no you didnt post saying thats not ok lol, but posted some musk fanboy comment.

Musk even said, on record, it was easy to hack, not to mention all your bs about election rigging under trump, crazy how that all went away in one day!! What happened. But lets not use facts or address child abuse, just stupid comments.


The post you commented about may or not be true as far as the ballots went, they can look. Thats more than you have done on the recent child prostitution. Sick really

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Old 11-21-2024, 05:56 PM   #1713
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No he didn't. He's just the logical progression of what the Republican party was already becoming.

Government by billionaires for billionaires is just a stronger version of Reaganism, of the sale of trickle-down economics to the masses. Trump's election stems from the elimination of the fairness doctrine in 1987, which allowed for the emergence of right-wing media bubbles. He follows in the path of Newt Gingrich, who made screwing the Dems a core Republican value. He operates in the post-fact world established by Bush, who sold the nation on a war to address Saddam's weapons of mass destruction that did not actually exist. The vein of anti-intellectualism he embodies flows from the Tea Party, who turned away from expertise and towards ignorant populism. He's an idiot in a position he's deeply unqualified for, and as such he's Sara Palin's spiritual successor.

He didn't usurp the Republican party. They we already rolling out the red carpet for him (or some other similar charlatan). He's the leopard eating the faces of the face-eating leopard party.
It all comes down to this piece of crap and his fellow scumbags in Chicago, may they all rot in hell

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Old 11-21-2024, 06:55 PM   #1715
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Interesting article here, certainly sounds suspicious on first glance.


More discussion at the link, sure looks like smoke.
You're falling into the conspiracy trap.
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Old 11-21-2024, 07:05 PM   #1716
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You're falling into the conspiracy trap.
I don't agree with you on much, but I agree with you on this. I think this is mole hill stuff, and there are other conspiracies out there too about 'stolen elections.' Would love to be proven wrong though.
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Old 11-21-2024, 07:24 PM   #1717
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On the one hand, Trump and Musk are exactly the people who would cheat. On the other hand, you know that, so you either stop them or cheat better. Unless there's real proof, no point in dwelling on it. Still possible, though.
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You're falling into the conspiracy trap.
You’re intentionally discounting a logical theory, just like a true MAGAt would.

Aren’t conspiracy theories the bread & butter of MAGA morons?
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You're falling into the conspiracy trap.

The high rate of bullet ballots is interesting, but rather than hacking could it be that a large number of single issue (elect Trump) voters were motivated in swing states by Musk and others? Lots of last minute pleas for bros to get out and vote. These are maybe not people who are not politically savvy and don’t care about other races down the ballot?
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You’re intentionally discounting a logical theory, just like a true MAGAt would.

Aren’t conspiracy theories the bread & butter of MAGA morons?
Do you actually think this is logical? Go look at the NC numbers

Also these quotes are demonstrating a flawed understanding of statistics
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It’s north of a 35 billion to 1 probability that you could win seven out of seven outside of recount range with less than 50% of the vote.”
Or you should find this one quite concerning


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For 20 years, I’ve been saying the same thing,” said Spoonamore. “The elections are being hacked, here's how they're being hacked. And every time, people take a few recommendations after each hacked election, implement some of it—but then you sit there going, that's still not secure.”
Apologies if you were being sarcastic calling it a logical theory but this doesn’t pass the 30 seconds of thought before re-posting something.

Edit: based on your post in the other thread it sounds like you are serious.

So please explain why polling was correct in the NC governors race yet fraud occurred in the presidential race representing 10% of the vote and yet the result matched polling

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