[Rumour] Chris Johnston: Lindholm is interested in staying

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

That would be particularly unproductive, to trade him when the market is non-existent.

Do you suggest you dump him ala Taylor Hall?

If that ‘s the return, you wait until the trade deadline. Conroy would have nothing to lose.

I meant the market for the other players that he is seemingly waiting to see a conclusion too (Backlund, Vladar, Hanifin)

Guessing the Lindholm market hasn't been fully flushed out with the player and the team looking to get him signed.

[flambers]

Or the Flames are waiting for the decision from the Lindholm camp, and have not had trade discussions as of yet

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Seems like offers right now are poor so you hope you'd get better value at the deadline. You're probably looking at a late 1st and a b level prospect though. Conroy is probably hoping the team bounces back and Lindholm decides to stay.

I don’t see it.

Even if the Flames hold onto Lindholm, and others, until the deadline, I think they’ll get more than a late 1st and a B level prospect. Especially for Lindholm and Hanifin. By the TDL, they can deal those players at 50% retained. That’s going to appeal to several teams.

I think the late first May be accurate because they’re almost certainly going to contenders (never know though, Islanders weren’t contenders-Horvat). I bet they get more than the B level prospects you’re suggesting though.

[Bonded]

Trading Lindholm in the summer will be a hockey trade

[Vinny01]

We saw what happened with the Blues last year and it was probably the perfect time to have an off year. They had multiple aging vets on expiring deals and collected picks to restock the shelves and ended up selecting 10th with their own pick. The Flames did not seem interested or did not get the offers they wanted for guys with a year and a half left.

If the Flames have a medicore season again next year and guys are definitely walking then they will be in a similar spot to add a bunch of picks and younger players. Lindholm and Hanifin should get guaranteed 1sts. Backlund, Tanev, Kylington, Zadorov should be able to get at least a 2nd or 2nd++.

The big “problem” if we want to call it that is the fact I think this team is due for a bounce back. The dark cloud of Sutter is gone, the shock of the blockbuster trade, and extensions from Huberdeau and Weegar is gone, Kadri has a full summer to refresh and recharge being settled in Calgary. Markstrom/Lindholm are not dealing with becoming fathers for the first time. Huska and Conroy bring new positive energy to the organization in their new roles and the team looks to inject some youth into the lineup.

After the disappointing year in the bubble many thought it was time to blow the core up but they stuck with it and were rewarded with some epic seasons from the top line yet both players were lost and in Gaudreau’s case for nothing. It is a big risk doing the same with this current group of UFA’s. If this team bounces back to be a Pacific division contender would they still look to sell their current pending UFA’s? The only time they did that was 2015 when they were vastly overachieving and had prospects knocking at the door to take the spots filled by Glencross and Baerstchi (who requested a trade).

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Ooooh, we've seen this movie before. It doesn't end well.

Especially if they're banking on the re-sign and don't have their B in the shute ready to go.

Thats some deja frickin vu

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

I think it's weird people are taking a lack of anything happening as a sign of inaction, or that it's an indication of what Conroy wants (i.e. he's banking on a bounce back from the team and Lindholm being open to re-sign).

That last part is certainly an outcome that could occur, because as much as we'd like this to just be wrapped up, it's a very fluid situation.

Nothing has happenned yet because nothing has trigger action. Lindholm really has 0 reason to sign any contract now. First important deadline for him is start of training camp maybe, as injury risk introduces it's self. Outside of that, his deadline of note is start of season, and that really only matters for the aformentioned injury risk, and what his mindset is on himself. Will this season increase his value, decrease it or hold flat.........and does he really consider Calgary as an option.

Conroy likely hasn't moved, because he hasn't gotten an offer that makes sense for him yet. One that doesn't make him think he couldn't get equal or better later in the process (yes that means potentially all the way to deadline). But that doesn't mean he's not working on getting a better deal.

The ideal situation of a win fall at the draft for Lindholm didn't happen. That's too bad, and it could be because of poor GMing, or the poor market. Don't know for sure, but all signs point to the poor market.

Trading Lindholm now because we are nervous about the Johnny outcome would be the worst move Conroy could make if the offers aren't good. That would literally be him being handcuffed by the mistakes of the past, not learning from them.

[The Cobra]

We certainly know the market is poor based on the actual market, which has been poor.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I think it's weird people are taking a lack of anything happening as a sign of inaction, or that it's an indication of what Conroy wants (i.e. he's banking on a bounce back from the team and Lindholm being open to re-sign).

That last part is certainly an outcome that could occur, because as much as we'd like this to just be wrapped up, it's a very fluid situation.

Nothing has happenned yet because nothing has trigger action. Lindholm really has 0 reason to sign any contract now. First important deadline for him is start of training camp maybe, as injury risk introduces it's self. Outside of that, his deadline of note is start of season, and that really only matters for the aformentioned injury risk, and what his mindset is on himself. Will this season increase his value, decrease it or hold flat.........and does he really consider Calgary as an option.

Conroy likely hasn't moved, because he hasn't gotten an offer that makes sense for him yet. One that doesn't make him think he couldn't get equal or better later in the process (yes that means potentially all the way to deadline). But that doesn't mean he's not working on getting a better deal.

The ideal situation of a win fall at the draft for Lindholm didn't happen. That's too bad, and it could be because of poor GMing, or the poor market. Don't know for sure, but all signs point to the poor market.

Trading Lindholm now because we are nervous about the Johnny outcome would be the worst move Conroy could make if the offers aren't good. That would literally be him being handcuffed by the mistakes of the past, not learning from them.

I'm doubtful Linholm would be holding out hoping to increase his value. If the Flames are offering 8 years around 9 million I doubt he's going to get much more than that even if he does have a better year. Doesn't seem worth the risk to maybe get an extra million at best. If Lindholm is holding out its probably yo see how the team performs and what moves they make.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I don’t see it.

Even if the Flames hold onto Lindholm, and others, until the deadline, I think they’ll get more than a late 1st and a B level prospect. Especially for Lindholm and Hanifin. By the TDL, they can deal those players at 50% retained. That’s going to appeal to several teams.

I think the late first May be accurate because they’re almost certainly going to contenders (never know though, Islanders weren’t contenders-Horvat). I bet they get more than the B level prospects you’re suggesting though.

I'm assuming the team acquiring him would be a contender. Not for sure but seems more likely. Those teams don't like giving up roster players. They most likely know he's a rental so I cant see them parting with any top prospects. So the 1st is probably the main piece with a sweetener or two and I think that is probably more like a B prospect and maybe another later pick.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Especially if they're banking on the re-sign and don't have their B in the shute ready to go.

Thats some deja frickin vu

This exactly. I know they're saying publicly that they aren't interested in trading Lindholm but if he doesn't sign they better have a trade really to pull at a moments notice. They cannot get caught with their pants down again like Gaudreau.

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[Flames_F.T.W]

I keep seeing people bring up that Lindholm has no incentive to sign right now and it makes sense for him to wait... And you're right. But that doesn't make sense for the Flames. By the sounds of it they haven't engaged in ANY trade talks involving Lindholm and are holding out hope he signs the massive contract they've tabled. I think they've given him more than enough time to decide and should be gauging interest around the league for him.
They don't have to trade him now if the offers aren't there, but at minimum they need to start sending out feelers as to what kind of package they could get for him.

[BaconGuy]

I will post this here just because it is a slow news day. Straight from the Orange Julius guy IMO

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2023/0...ockbuster.html

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by BaconGuy

I will post this here just because it is a slow news day. Straight from the Orange Julius guy IMO

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2023/0...ockbuster.html

Gonna go out on a limb and say Calgary is not on Couture's 3 team trade list.

[AC]

Funny that it's clearly just repeating that same Tweet that was posted recently, but even then this blog gets the trade proposal's direction reversed.

The source Tweet was pretty clear to say that package was offered by the Sharks, and the Flames said no. This blog says the package was offered by the Flames.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by BaconGuy

I will post this here just because it is a slow news day. Straight from the Orange Julius guy IMO

https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2023/0...ockbuster.html

lmfao they stole a rumor from the guy we've all been following on twitter with the turtle profile pic. he said it was offered at the draft and turned down by Conroy. At least have the decency to credit the guy you're lifting ideas from

[Hackey]

Why would San Jose make that trade? To me that makes no sense from the Sharks standpoint. And that seems like a trade the Flames would jump all over. You get a top 6 player who is locked up to win now and you get a good prospect to make it looks like you're re-tooling. That rumor sounds like complete BS.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Why would San Jose make that trade? To me that makes no sense from the Sharks standpoint. And that seems like a trade the Flames would jump all over. You get a top 6 player who is locked up to win now and you get a good prospect to make it looks like you're re-tooling. That rumor sounds like complete BS.

The original rumor had the Sharks flipping Lindholm for picks and prospects. So they dump Coutures contract with no retention, give up a prospect, and get pieces that will allow them to get more picks and prospects when flipped.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by AC

Funny that it's clearly just repeating that same Tweet that was posted recently, but even then this blog gets the trade proposal's direction reversed.

The source Tweet was pretty clear to say that package was offered by the Sharks, and the Flames said no. This blog says the package was offered by the Flames.

Social media is good for getting legit info quickly bit it's also a spreading ground for complete bull**** not only being spread by one person, but also picked up half a dozen times by other desperate, wannabe insiders.

[jayswin]

Everyone and their dog is an insider now a days, with the small time fame it brings. It's annoying and makes purusing the internet much more annoying for rumors.