2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

One thing I'll say...Katz is a better owner than Edwards.

He was able to get an arena deal across the finish line.

He actually embraced a true re-build...maybe actually a bit too much...but in the end it got them McDavid.

I don't think they ever really tried to rebuild as they were trying to win and failed hard into most of those 1st overall picks.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

I am leary of Kadri he is 32 and we cannot afford his anchor of a contract 4 years down the road.

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Everyone is leery of Kadri. The Flames need some kind of plan though. Options seem like:

1. Rebuild.
2. Sign Kadri, who is the only good UFA left.
3. Trade away a bunch of assets for a top level talent currently playing on another team.

Option 3 looks pretty awful. The only good way I see that working out is to sell high on Mangiapane and trade him for a legit PPG player, and hopefully the Flames don't add much. This is a bit of a hail mary, but you never know.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Prepare to be disappointed. Flames won't rebuild at least until next deadline or offseason.

Which would just be so dumb, and such a Flames thing to do.

It’s like nobody ever told them “never be the last one to leave a party”.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The more I think about it, the more I think sigining Palat could be a shrewd move.

Tkachuk-Lindholm-Mangiapane/Toffoli
Palat-Backlund-Toffoli/Mangiapane
Coleman-Monahan-Pelletier
Lucic-Dube-Lewis
Ruzicka

Hanifin-Andersson
OK-Tanev
Mackey-Stone
Valimaki

Markstrom
Vladar

A step down from last year's club, but capable of making the playoffs IMO. Sutter is not here to tank.

Replacing Gaudreau's offence with Toffoli is a "step down". That's an understatement. FML. Could be what we need to trigger the rebuild though.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The more I think about it, the more I think sigining Palat could be a shrewd move.

Tkachuk-Lindholm-Mangiapane/Toffoli
Palat-Backlund-Toffoli/Mangiapane
Coleman-Monahan-Pelletier
Lucic-Dube-Lewis
Ruzicka

Hanifin-Andersson
OK-Tanev
Mackey-Stone
Valimaki

Markstrom
Vladar

A step down from last year's club, but capable of making the playoffs IMO. Sutter is not here to tank.

Sutter is going to be the GM before this is over.

Time is a flat circle.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Sutter is going to be the GM before this is over.

Time is a flat circle.

Help us all if that happens.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by blankall

Everyone is leery of Kadri. The Flames need some kind of plan though. Options seem like:

1. Rebuild.
2. Sign Kadri, who is the only good UFA left.
3. Trade away a bunch of assets for a top level talent currently playing on another team.

Option 3 looks pretty awful. The only good way I see that working out is to sell high on Mangiapane and trade him for a legit PPG player, and hopefully the Flames don't add much. This is a bit of a hail mary, but you never know.

Option 4 might be to add some short term contracts to guys not getting the interest they think they should be and are looking for a prove me contract.

Might be an ok option but the Flames need to flip these guys or other players

Or gain assets bailing out teams looking to dump salary

If Tkachuk did resign and Kylington and Mangiapane did long term as well the Flames probably don’t have cap space

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Bonded

You are also giddy today haha. Why will it get uglier?

Because the path forward has never been clearer for this organization. The sooner people admit it, The easier it will be to digest. If Tkachuk wont commit for 8 years at "Reasonable" number, you move the circus and get a new group to BUILD around.

If your down two 100+ point players (One was heavily inflated). These holes you cant plug and fix today or free agency or through out the summer. That's rebuild territory.

Rip the ####ing bandaid off. We just finished 8 years of up and down success with Johnny, Monahan core.

What teams are trading their 100+ point wingers? None that will come to Calgary.

Calgary is fortunate that we haven't touched any of our big guns in the AHL.

Wolf
Pelletier
Zary

[1_Flames_Fan]

Let's take a run at Palat.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Sutter is going to be the GM before this is over.

Time is a flat circle.

I heard from someone who is friends with Sutter IRL that he hated being a GM.

[MRCboicgy]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547294279831257094

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I heard from someone who is friends with Sutter IRL that he hated being a GM.

The GM position clearly hated him right back

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They were trying to win when they got McDavid they just sucked that bad...he didn't embrace anything.

City gave him what he wanted on the arena deal

The embraced the rebuild through the Hall, RNH, Yakupov drafts for sure.

Then yeah ended up trying to start to be good, still sucked, and got McDavid and Draisaitl.

Still started with embracing the initial suck though.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

Let's take a run at Palat.

Palat is great but what does that do to sign him to a 6 or 7 year deal? We’re not close to the core of Colorado or Tampa. And it’s too early to say he should be part of the rebuild going forward. We have to build through a core and then adding pieces. The core, I would argue, has to be brought in through smart drafting. Then you add pieces to build around them. The time horizon has to be 4 to 5 years down the road. Kicking the can further prolongs the agony.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1547296131239088130




Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
David Rittich signing in Winnipeg. 1 year $900,000

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Option 4 might be to add some short term contracts to guys not getting the interest they think they should be and are looking for a prove me contract.

Might be an ok option but the Flames need to flip these guys or other players

Or gain assets bailing out teams looking to dump salary

If Tkachuk did resign and Kylington and Mangiapane did long term as well the Flames probably don’t have cap space

That's basically a do nothing plan. I really hope that's not the plan, or a the very least that's the plan just for this year and the rebuild starts at the deadline.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by blankall

Replacing Gaudreau's offence with Toffoli is a "step down". That's an understatement. FML. Could be what we need to trigger the rebuild though.

I'm doing my very best to have a positive outlook here...

[Sec214]

I will add to my previous post that if Johnny committed to Calgary you could justify a rebuild on the fly but he stirred the drink for this team and he's moving on.

[Saqe]

Really hope Tre doesn't throw some stupid desperation money at Kadri or Palat.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Because the path forward has never been clearer for this organization. The sooner people admit it, The easier it will be to digest. If Tkachuk wont commit for 8 years at "Reasonable" number, you move the circus and get a new group to BUILD around.

If your down two 100+ point players (One was heavily inflated). These holes you cant plug and fix today or free agency or through out the summer. That's rebuild territory.

Rip the ####ing bandaid off. We just finished 8 years of up and down success with Johnny, Monahan core.

What teams are trading their 100+ point wingers? None that will come to Calgary.

Calgary is fortunate that we haven't touched any of our big guns in the AHL.

Wolf
Pelletier
Zary

Yeah, but they won't trade Tkachuk if he will sign long term and you have already decided he won't.