I agree it makes sense to make the Empire look evil, but I don't think it makes sense from a cost and efficiency perspective.
Building a prison/factory facility with special floors and then having to pay the costs to keep guards and prisoners alive would probably cost more than having a bunch of droids working around the clock. Not to mention that eventually the families of the prisoners would lead to questions about where the prisoners end up.
Just need a relatively small maintenance crew to keep the droids running. The droids don't need life support, food, or rest. There should be a ton of droid parts available after the clone wars.
It would make sense if the Empire didn't have thousands of worlds of resources available to it.
Anyways just a small nitpick.
In the legends EU, the Empire conquered the Wookies and took them as Slaves because their ability to work on massive projects, their craftsmen ship and their brute strength made them ideal slaves. They were highly valued on the first death star project, and in mining operations.
The Mon Calamari were really exceptional ship wrights so it was natural to enslave them and put them to work in ship yards with very little training.
In Ahsoka's book the Empire subjugated agricultural worlds with an established farm base and made them plant and grow food plants for soliders that grew quickly but after a couple of harvests had destroyed their soil base. But they were experienced workers.
Instead of bulding a ton of different droids and programming them with these skills. They just enslaved mostly alien species that were good at certain things, and the lower class humans that were good at certain things. In exchange they provided them with a way to contribute to the Empire as a whole.
Plus most Imperial Officers and senior bureaucrats didn't trust droids due to the Droid armies. There were very few droid soldiers in the empire such as the Dark Troopers and even the Emperor didn't trust the Clonetroopers (living droids) after order 66.
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You have to do SOMETHING with prisoners other than keep them in cells. Might as well have them build #### to keep them so busy they can't cause trouble.
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You have to do SOMETHING with prisoners other than keep them in cells. Might as well have them build #### to keep them so busy they can't cause trouble.
It's smart.
This show is fun.
They seemed to suggest that the Empire was purposely rounding up innocent people for the purpose of putting them in slave labour camps and extending the sentences of existing inmates for that purpose. That's different than just using existing slave labour.
I would assume there are certain elements of most manufacturing processes that people may be superior at, as opposed to droids. Human hands may, for example, have more versatility at manipulating a variety of parts and tools.
I also get the impression that droids are expensive and the life of the poor is cheap.
Throughout the SW galaxy they've consistently shown living beings doing all sorts of manual labour. If it was just a question of getting machines to do everything, that would have been done already.
I agree that the slave labour angle does make sense though.
You know it worked because when the Republic was in power before the Empire, there was mass slavery especially on the outer rim. When the Empire fell, we saw that slavery continued on the outer rim. In the GFFA the poor are a disposable source of income and labor that nobody gives a crap about.
Its why the First Order rose so quickly in the outer rim.
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Tales Of the Jedi was pretty good, but is it me or is the overly dramatic background music ruining it?
Overly loud and overly dramatic, it kinda takes away from the effect by being to weighty. Even being during dialogue. Annoying because otherwise I would enjoy it.
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star wars music hasn't been on point since the first six episodes . then again John Williams don't grow on trees
(obi wan intro was ok)
Andor soundtrack is it's unique disturbing synth score that is a fresh sound I really like. It's refreshing after 40 years of John Williams's style scores in SW (still the GOAT for his Superman theme). It's just a point in the story that is more quiet/haunting vs the hometown and heist segments.
Andor soundtrack is it's unique disturbing synth score that is a fresh sound I really like. It's refreshing after 40 years of John Williams's style scores in SW (still the GOAT for his Superman theme). It's just a point in the story that is more quiet/haunting vs the hometown and heist segments.
this is true actually I'm really enjoying the Andor soundtrack with its ethereal styles . really unlike anything I've heard on a show before .. I guess I'm thinking of themes & anthems . binary sunset theme , leias theme , imperial march .. they just cant be matched as individual pieces .. and there is no shame in that .. they are all-time great compositions
I loved one thing about it. The empire is very clinical in its approach. Its more about efficiency then casual cruelty. in the prison.
They're not walking around randomly beating and whipping and shooting prisoners. They establish rules, basically make you a cog in the machine and if you don't perform, then you are punished.
But you look at it, all of the basics are provided. Clean clothes, food, water, beds.
Meanwhile we now have the entrance of Saw who is a brutal radical, we're seeing the philosophical split in the rebellion groups.
I also liked the brutal efficiency of the ISB and the continued pound down of our erstwhile former investigator.
Also you hear um gentle criticism of Palpatine's policies. But nobody is willing to openly act against it.
Its a great show.
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Another top episode of Andor. This , and Rogue One, are miles above anything since the original trilogy and have made Star Wars enjoyable again. something which I thought was long gone.
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Another top episode of Andor. This , and Rogue One, are miles above anything since the original trilogy and have made Star Wars enjoyable again. something which I thought was long gone.
I'd add the Mandalorian to that list as well. That show is pure joy.
Well now we've seen the true power of the Empire. Its ability to find zealots that are not Sith Lords, to do evil things, enjoy it, and justify it in the name of the noble pursuit of Peace and Order.
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We've really misread Dedra in this series. Up to this episode we saw a ambitious and competent ISB agent on the hunt for the Rebels. We saw her show care for her subordinate, and we thought, that she might be a good example of a good person in the Empire. But what we saw in this episode, is that she is brutal efficient and sadistic and ice cold. Her chilling fishing analogy before setting the smiling happy sadistic doctor was quite possibly the best piece of dialogue in the show.
The mercy killing of the old man by a fellow prisoner medtech showed that the Empire really doesn't care. On top of that the fact that you never finish your sentence, you just go to a different prison, followed by the power failure and the news that the Empire ruthlessly fried 100 prisoners to quell a riot because as Andor bitterly stated, "We're cheaper then droids".
At the same time Mon makes another idealistic speech and is heckled mercilessly by an Imperial Senate that's a combination of not caring anymore, and staffed by brutal Imperial supporters.
Even the fear in Mon's eyes over the missing 400k and the realization that she's going to need the help of a brutal thug to keep the Empires eyes off of her activities.
The blank and broken Bix scene was really well done.
Mon's husband is just unlikeable.
I was thinking that we might at some point see Grand Moff Tarkin in this thing as the primary enemy.
Seeing the last place team in the factory broken and willingly stepping into the box to be tortured for their failures, was a wow scene.
We're really not even at the height of the Empire, which will come several years later.
Ok a couple of other things. The people doing the costume designs has done a amazing job, especially with Mon.
The use of music was incredibly good and when the music went away it really upped the feeling of dread.
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