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Old 04-06-2016, 12:12 PM   #1701
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Does anyone know if there's consensus on which of the top 6 guys are NHL ready?
I think it's been said or at least hinted at that Matthews, Laine and Tkachuk are the most NHL ready in the top 6.
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Old 04-06-2016, 12:16 PM   #1702
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Could be the Flames taking Pu if the Dallas pick turns into a first.
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And hopefully he Pu-Pus on the Oilers new building for years to come.
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Old 04-06-2016, 12:58 PM   #1703
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Think you need to update your record column. We only have 2 games left which only gives us the same number of possible outcomes(6), but obviously not 3-0-0 or 1-3-0. Good chart though, think between 5th and 7th is our likely drafting spot, not that thats saying much.
Whoops! Indeed I did. Good catch. Thank you. Updated my original post.
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Old 04-06-2016, 12:59 PM   #1704
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Just gave a spin on the good old tankathon simulator. Calgary won 1st pick, Winnipeg won 2nd, pushing Edmonton to 4th. This would be awesome!
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:01 PM   #1705
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So if the flames win their last 2 games... Which I think they will... They will have a 26% chance of drafting in the top 3 and a 55% chance of drafting 5th/6th/7th. Is my math right on that?


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I forgot to update the records associated with each point possibility. It's fixed now. If the Flames win their last two games they have a 24% chance of picking top 3 (8% + 8% + 8%) and a 73% chance of drafting 6th-8th (21% + 37% + 15%). Those outcomes make up most of the distribution.
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:01 PM   #1706
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went to http://nhllotterysimulator.com/#/ and ran it 10 times with the Flames getting #1 5 times but were either 2 or 3 the other 5 times.

Why can't it be April 30th yet?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:03 PM   #1707
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Notable changes since the last update is that we are now mathematically eliminated from finishing worse than 6th last and almost certain to finish between 4th-6th last. There's a small 8% chance we finish 3rd last. Net result to the draft pick probability is as follows:


(Draft pick odds using Enoch Root's standings-pick percentages combined with sportsclubstats.com's final standings probabilities for each potential Flames remaining record as of today)
Quoted after you fixed this since its dropped off the latest page. Thanks!
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:22 PM   #1708
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These are the players that have piqued my interest for our 2nd rounder / Dallas pick / florida pick:
- C Clayton Keller
- RW Pascal Laberge
- RW Alex DeBrincat
- LW Cameron Morrison
- LHD Sean Day
- C Mitchell Mattson
- RW Taylor Raddysh
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:49 PM   #1709
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I forgot to update the records associated with each point possibility. It's fixed now. If the Flames win their last two games they have a 24% chance of picking top 3 (8% + 8% + 8%) and a 73% chance of drafting 6th-8th (21% + 37% + 15%). Those outcomes make up most of the distribution.
What are the odds they pick top 3 if they lose their last two games?

EDIT: I guess 30% based on the chart.
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To finish in the bottom 3, CLB needs to win at least 2 of their next 3 (TOR, BUF, CHI) , flames to lose their next two. Possible.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:04 PM   #1711
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These are the players that have piqued my interest for our 2nd rounder / Dallas pick / florida pick:
- C Clayton Keller
- RW Pascal Laberge
- RW Alex DeBrincat
- LW Cameron Morrison
- LHD Sean Day
- C Mitchell Mattson
- RW Taylor Raddysh
Yeah, Sean Day is rather intriguing no doubt.

He may have fizzled a bit at the CHL level given his exceptional status but there is something to say about a 6'3 230lb defenseman that can skate like the wind.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:07 PM   #1712
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Well that settles it, I'm a Columbus fan this week.
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Yeah, Sean Day is rather intriguing no doubt.

He may have fizzled a bit at the CHL level given his exceptional status but there is something to say about a 6'3 230lb defenseman that can skate like the wind.
And with his career -75 +/- at the OHL level. Very intriguing.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:18 PM   #1714
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Yeah, Sean Day is rather intriguing no doubt.

He may have fizzled a bit at the CHL level given his exceptional status but there is something to say about a 6'3 230lb defenseman that can skate like the wind.
Yep. Could end up a Jake Muzzin type.
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Well that settles it, I'm a Columbus fan this week.
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Yep. Could end up a Jake Muzzin type.
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And with his career -75 +/- at the OHL level. Very intriguing.
I've been reading up on Sean Day a lot over this week, actually. He's dropped hardcore down the rankings, but I would be willing to use one of the later 2nds on him.

The initial surface impressions aren't good at all:
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Sean day has done little to justify he is exceptional except for gaining the tag as the most over-rated prospect in the OHL. If you are unclear on his history, his family and representation demanded he be let into the CHL early, based on his size, skating and skills coming up through Detroit’s Compuware -16 program. He has what amounts to a terrible season on and off the ice. He was sent home in December for attitude problems and requested a trade out of Mississauga.

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It was a simple story: the adoration of a big brother by a little brother.

In Sean Day’s case, it was his older brother Scott, who he wanted to emulate growing up in Rochester, Mich.

“I remember watching my brother, Scott, play, and ever since then I wanted to be a hockey player,” said Day. “He was my role model growing up. He’s the reason I wear No. 4.”
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For his kid brother, a highly touted defenceman with the OHL’s Mississauga Steelheads who could possibly be picked high in next summer’s NHL draft, Scott’s arrest and conviction had a profound impact.

“I got to see him [in jail] once. We kind of just reflected on a lot of the funny things we did,” said Day in an interview with Sportsnet.ca this week. “We were a really close family. We have four sons in our family. All four of us grew up really close to each other. Definitely seeing him go away was sad.”
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His first season as a 15-year-old “exceptional” player in the OHL went reasonably well, and the second started off very well. But then came his brother’s arrest. Since, his play has been inconsistent, he’s occasionally left the Steelheads to go back home and his draft stock has dropped.
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Many of Day’s Steelhead teammates aren’t aware of the turmoil in his life. “He’s genuinely affected by it,” said Mississauga head coach James Boyd. “We provide as much support as we can.”
Honestly, having your idol and hockey hero be your big brother only to have him taken away, not being able to have him watch your games... and especially for a very tight-knit family of four brothers, that has to be really crushing as a young player. So I think this whole idea of "undisciplined", "uninterested" etc that have caused critics to be so harsh is really overblown. And I certainly can't blame him for wanting to be traded closer to his family after something like that happening.


Kylington's draft rankings also tanked hard similarly, again probably due to percieved attitude issues, and we took a stab at him with a late 2nd. And he's working out really great so far. If it ain't broke....
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Day is very intriguing. He played very well in the Miss vs Barie playoff series. I hope we get Dallas' 1st and use it on Day.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:48 PM   #1718
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Not sure I'd burn a 2nd on him (Day). Maybe a 3rd. One guy I'm eyeing in the middle rounds is Stefan Falkowsky he's an overager (19 years old) but for a 6'7 d-man with 9G 23A 32P +17 in 58GP I'll overlook that.
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:46 PM   #1719
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Damien Cox did his mock draft on sportsnet. Here are the results (Sportsnet also simmed the lottery)

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