[Trade] Flames trade Baertschi to VAN for a 2015 2nd round pick (Baertschi requested trade)

[nik-]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not toward the player at all

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

one hooking
one holding
one -1
so far
seems familiar

How about this one?

[dammage79]

I voted Neutral, Don't really care about the Sven trade. Still don't really. But what I watched today I posted about. It was a weak showing for Sven. Nothing big or dramatic about it. I will admit I was a little curious to see how he would do in his first game up with VAN and really held no ill will towards him. But his play did justify why the Flames were keeping him down. He made some really bad defensive decisions today.

EDIT: And unless Sven plays against the Flames in the playoffs, this will likely be the last time I put and vested interest in seeing how Sven fares from here on out.

[Azhouse]

Originally Posted by nik-

Actually towards the player.

If people are so fine with him being traded, they should just move on and not take so much pleasure in pointing out a crappy game.

Ummm...what fun would that be?

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by nik-

How about this one?

That's one I know for certain is not directed at the player.It's for the apologists who blame everything Calgary for the players' mediocre results.

But ok - I'll stop.

[jlh2640]

From what I saw today he looked like his usual scared of contact self.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by nik-

A lot of vindictiveness in this thread.

If the Sven fans wouldn't keep bumping the thread every time he had a nice AHL game it would have been buried weeks ago and out of sight out of mind. The fact that some have taken to posting how poor he is today is what happens when same fans can't let go of a player that no longer plays for their team and other fans are sick of hearing about him.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I didn't see but speaking with a Canucks fan he was awful today

awful is a stretch.

he had a couple good plays, a couple penalties, and a couple soft plays

I thought he was pretty much what we saw from him all year

[Zach]

He looked alright today.

[savardandjokinen]

Sven had some good shifts, some invisible and some just there. 2 penalties for taking his hand off his stick and hugging the players

[cannon7]

I, for one, wish Sven well.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I, for one, wish Sven well.

In the Swiss league.

[Volas]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If the Sven fans wouldn't keep bumping the thread every time he had a nice AHL game it would have been buried weeks ago and out of sight out of mind. The fact that some have taken to posting how poor he is today is what happens when same fans can't let go of a player that no longer plays for their team and other fans are sick of hearing about him.

wasn't this thread locked and then bumped by bingo after a pretty harmless article about baerstchi?

the thread was literally re-opened to trash the player.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Zach

He looked alright today.

4 PIM (hooking and holding), 1 shot on goal and minus 1 in just over 10 minutes of ice time.

Good work, double agent Baertschi. All is going according to plan...

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

If the Sven fans wouldn't keep bumping the thread every time he had a nice AHL game it would have been buried weeks ago and out of sight out of mind. The fact that some have taken to posting how poor he is today is what happens when same fans can't let go of a player that no longer plays for their team and other fans are sick of hearing about him.

Problem with mega-threads... I click this from time to time cause I'm interested in post-trade info or inner workings of NHL trades... it would be better to have a separate thread for "day to day updates on sven" to keep things seperate

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Volas

wasn't this thread locked and then bumped by bingo after a pretty harmless article about baerstchi?

the thread was literally re-opened to trash the player.

No. The thread was opened because the guy the runs this joint posted a tangible update.
So no the thread was not "literally' re-opened to trash the player.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

No. The thread was opened because the guy the runs this joint posted a tangible update.
So no the thread was not "literally' re-opened to trash the player.

And immediately after it was re-opened, there were quite a few posts about his Uitica production. Non-trashing posts.

[Volas]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

No. The thread was opened because the guy the runs this joint posted a tangible update.
So no the thread was not "literally' re-opened to trash the player.

bingo implied that an "always earned, never given" culture could not possibly become a toxic situation for a player.

it was absolutely posted to trash the player.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Volas

bingo implied that an "always earned, never given" culture could not possibly become a toxic situation for a player.

it was absolutely posted to trash the player.

Are you kidding me? Bingo has never trashed a player, even when he deserves it.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Volas

bingo implied that an "always earned, never given" culture could not possibly become a toxic situation for a player.

and? I mean, is that implication even debatable? I fail to grasp how "you have to earn it" could possibly a bad thing.

[Volas]

Originally Posted by devo22

and? I mean, is that implication even debatable? I fail to grasp how "you have to earn it" could possibly a bad thing.

there's far more that goes into a team's culture.

if preaching it was so foolproof, it's a wonder why teams with apparently bad dressing rooms like toronto and san jose haven't figured it out.

things can go south between a player and their team for many reasons. an "always given, never earned" mantra doesn't preclude that.