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Originally Posted by stampsx2
Um......of course the tracks aren't moveable.
You need to lighten up.
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I was speaking more generally, rather than specifically toward you. You just happened to be the first (but not the last, see the post above) to bring it up. I do apologize on that front, but am not entirely letting you off the hook (see second part of this post below). For now, let's deal with the "lets move the CPR tracks" thing by itself.
The problem is that every time the issue of improving the infrastructure near the CPR tracks is brought up, decision makers and the public are sidetracked (pun not intended) into a discussion about moving the CPR tracks. Sometimes it is brought up intentionally as a diversion and sometimes it is brought up innocently out of obliviousness.
Look at this thread as a small example:
"Hey, so the underpasses, we should improve those. What's happening with that anyway?"
"What we should do is move the CPR tracks"
"Hey yeah, that would be great, eh? Wonder what it would take to do it?"
"Hmm yeah, I wonder if it's been studied."
....and on and on, until enough information has been provided to (for the thousandth time) demonstrate why it is a boondoggle, then everyone finally goes
"Oh yeah, I guess it doesn't really work. Wouldn't it be sweet though?"
...and by that time everyone has been sufficiently distracted and what should be a clear-cut issue has been clouded by the spectre of something that has long-ago determined to be improbable, bordering on impossible in any reasonable timeframe.
I don't mean to personally insult anyone that has taken part in the discussion in this thread, but if you follow these issues, you'd be surprised how often it comes up, which is where my frustration stems from.
As a very recent example, look at this twitter conversation from a week ago where a former MLA (who should really know better) brings up the "lets move the tracks" thing (none of these participants are me, in case you were wondering):
https://twitter.com/TomSindlinger/st...81511030579200
So, again, no the CPR tracks aren't going to move so we should get on with the improvements that are relatively cheap and would bring significant benefit.
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Originally Posted by stampsx2
I also posted, i hope we get the best stadium/arena in canada. Probably not going to happen, but one can dream.
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I know you likely mean no harm by bringing this stuff up, but as I noted above, it can serve to distract from progressing on solutions that can actually be done.
That aside, this isn't the first time you in particular have done something like this, which is likely a small part of why my post took the tone it did. This also happened in the "Deerfoot Trail Problems" thread.
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...87#post3905387
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...69#post3931869
To be fair, that one was distracting less from the real solutions because it was much easier to identify as a way-out-there idea. Still, the "let's put a train down Deerfoot" thing actually gets brought up by people from time to time as well (again, you just happened to be the most recent on CP), which is why I replied to it at the time.
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Originally Posted by stampsx2
Speaking of red hearing ideas, were you the one that supported changing 11 th and 12 ave into two way streets?
...and synchronizing the lights downtown north south for pedestrian traffic.
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To be correct, I am
one of the ones who supports 11th/12th Avenue 2 way operation as part of certain grander multi-modal transportation solutions in the area (and can let the idea go if certain other schemes are implemented); and I do support looking into light synchronizations that could benefit pedestrians while still being workable for other modes.
Neither of these are red herrings as I (or really, most people) have brought them up. I don't bring them up to distract, or mislead away from other issues. In fact, on CP I didn't even bring them up at all and just spoke to them when other people brought them up.
I don't think you're using "red herring" correctly here.
