2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Flamesfan05]

With the team competing, I don’ think Conroy is in a hurry to deal for futures

We may see some hockey deals like Toffoli’s where they get someone back that are struggling but can still help

[stemit14]

Just for the fun of it… what do you think the leafs would have to offer right now in order for Conroy to approach Markstrom to waive his NMC? They are likely getting very desperate. Their prospect pool is nothing impressive so it would likely have to be picks. The leafs would need to send back Samsonov and the flames would also have to retain some salary. It’s likely a huge price…. One not seen from a goalie trade in a long time. I’ll say at least 2 first round picks (top 3 protection). Extra high price because Conroy is likely not at all eager to trade Markstrom, Treliving should be getting desperate, and the owner likely does not want to do Treliving any favours.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Just for the fun of it… what do you think the leafs would have to offer right now in order for Conroy to approach Markstrom to waive his NMC? They are likely getting very desperate. Their prospect pool is nothing impressive so it would likely have to be picks. The leafs would need to send back Samsonov and the flames would also have to retain some salary. It’s likely a huge price…. One not seen from a goalie trade in a long time. I’ll say at least 2 first round picks (top 3 protection). Extra high price because Conroy is likely not at all eager to trade Markstrom, Treliving should be getting desperate, and the owner likely does not want to do Treliving any favours.

TOR doesn't have the assets.

1) taking Samsonov - it's only one yr @ $3.5M, so maybe a 2nd (they don't have any)
2) Markstrom - a 1st and a prospect
3) retain $2M on Markstrom for 3 years. Probably a 1st, or 2 2nds

Toronto simply doesn't have the assets to do it

[gvitaly]

I really liked M. McLeod's game in NJ. He has a good two way game. He's both defensively responsible, and looks like a pretty good puck carrier(which we need). When Hughes gets back he'll be stuck as the #3C, behind him and Hischier.

If we end up trading any of our UFAs to NJ, he'd be one of the less flashy names I'd target. What do you guys think of him?

[browna]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Just for the fun of it… what do you think the leafs would have to offer right now in order for Conroy to approach Markstrom to waive his NMC? They are likely getting very desperate. Their prospect pool is nothing impressive so it would likely have to be picks. The leafs would need to send back Samsonov and the flames would also have to retain some salary. It’s likely a huge price…. One not seen from a goalie trade in a long time. I’ll say at least 2 first round picks (top 3 protection). Extra high price because Conroy is likely not at all eager to trade Markstrom, Treliving should be getting desperate, and the owner likely does not want to do Treliving any favours.

Nylander and Samsonov for Markstrom, Tanev, Vladar and Lindholm.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

TOR doesn't have the assets.

1) taking Samsonov - it's only one yr @ $3.5M, so maybe a 2nd (they don't have any)
2) Markstrom - a 1st and a prospect
3) retain $2M on Markstrom for 3 years. Probably a 1st, or 2 2nds

Toronto simply doesn't have the assets to do it

They do have them. Even if the 2nd round pick is not this year. So you’re guess would be:

To Toronto:
Markstrom ($2 million retained)

To Calgary:
2024 1st round pick
2025 1st round pick
2025 2nd round pick
2026 2nd round pick
B-level prospect

It’s a very high price to pay… one that - if it doesn’t work out - the GM gets fired for. So in reality, the leafs would not ever pay this price… but I like your reasoning for the cost… seems reasonable for a desperate team trading for a key player that the flames don’t really want to trade right now.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by stemit14

They do have them. Even if the 2nd round pick is not this year. So you’re guess would be:

To Toronto:
Markstrom ($2 million retained)

To Calgary:
2024 1st round pick
2025 1st round pick
2025 2nd round pick
2026 2nd round pick
B-level prospect

It’s a very high price to pay… one that - if it doesn’t work out - the GM gets fired for. So in reality, the leafs would not ever pay this price… but I like your reasoning for the cost… seems reasonable for a desperate team trading for a key player that the flames don’t really want to trade right now.

Or, if you have a higher level prospect, you can replace them for whatever group of picks would be their equivalent.

Yes, high price to pay, and any GM doing that is putting their job on the line.

Edit: I think you have one too many 2nds in there

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Or, if you have a higher level prospect, you can replace them for whatever group of picks would be their equivalent.

Yes, high price to pay, and any GM doing that is putting their job on the line.

Edit: I think you have one too many 2nds in there

Treliving is a deal maker. I don’t think he is the kind that worries about losing a job

[Enoch Root]

So it should be: 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 2nd, prospect

(remember, the Flames are taking Samsonov (cap dump), AND they are retaining on Markstrom for 3 years)

[dino7c]

Flames and Leafs have the same record give or take...maybe they should be sending the players lol

[dammage79]

Wonder if Trees gonna get a video tribute when the Leafs play in CGY.

I also wonder if the rumor is true that the owner won't deal treliving and the Leafs on trades.

[NewFan]

I'm sure there will be lots of conditions.
2024 1st, 2025 2nd(conditions) top Forward prospect and cap dump.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Wonder if Trees gonna get a video tribute when the Leafs play in CGY.

I also wonder if the rumor is true that the owner won't deal treliving and the Leafs on trades.

Leafs don't really have much to offer is the issue I think

that and they have the same record as the Flames

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Wonder if Trees gonna get a video tribute when the Leafs play in CGY.

I also wonder if the rumor is true that the owner won't deal treliving and the Leafs on trades.

They should, have Neal, Brouwer, Raymond, and Hamonic thank him on the big screen, in front of the sea of red. Then switch to guys that didn't want to be here like Fox, Hamilton, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and Bennett.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Wonder if Trees gonna get a video tribute when the Leafs play in CGY.

I also wonder if the rumor is true that the owner won't deal treliving and the Leafs on trades.

Not true.

They wanted Z and Retention but didn’t want to play the price.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by stemit14

They do have them. Even if the 2nd round pick is not this year. So you’re guess would be:

To Toronto:
Markstrom ($2 million retained)

To Calgary:
2024 1st round pick
2025 1st round pick
2025 2nd round pick
2026 2nd round pick
B-level prospect

It’s a very high price to pay… one that - if it doesn’t work out - the GM gets fired for. So in reality, the leafs would not ever pay this price… but I like your reasoning for the cost… seems reasonable for a desperate team trading for a key player that the flames don’t really want to trade right now.

Toronto doesn't own any of their own picks highlighted in red.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I really liked M. McLeod's game in NJ. He has a good two way game. He's both defensively responsible, and looks like a pretty good puck carrier(which we need). When Hughes gets back he'll be stuck as the #3C, behind him and Hischier.

If we end up trading any of our UFAs to NJ, he'd be one of the less flashy names I'd target. What do you guys think of him?

We debated McLeod a few times in this thread, and he definitely has his boosters as well as detractors. I think it depends on who we're trading, but McLeod wouldn't work as the "young roster player", or "prospect" in any deal, but he would be great as the "salary" player, in the event that NJ needed to move out money. McLeod is 25, so he's still young, but no spring chicken as he turns 26 in February. He's in the midst of a good season though, with 19 points in 41 games, and he's big and quite fast with some power and toughness. I like him, and wouldn't mind having him here at all- maybe he would squeeze out Dube...

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

So it should be: 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 2nd, prospect

(remember, the Flames are taking Samsonov (cap dump), AND they are retaining on Markstrom for 3 years)

Those are all going to be late round picks, better change that prospect to Knies for Conroy to even consider it imo.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Those are all going to be late round picks, better change that prospect to Knies for Conroy to even consider it imo.

Have you seen the standings?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Have you seen the standings?

I know the standings, the Leafs sit 3rd in the Atlantic, they have a very good roster with no goaltending. What do you think happens if they have Markstrom in goal? They will start banking points like crazy.