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Old 06-15-2023, 08:08 AM   #17041
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Yeah, Anaheim isn't close to contending yet and not ready to push their chips in so they would keep the 2nd
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:08 AM   #17042
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That 2nd pick won’t get traded unless the team wanting the pick has either the 3rd-5th pick and overpays for it. Or if someone loves a guy that Anaheim wasn’t going to take @ 2 and knows they can get him 3rd-5th… but rarely happens.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:08 AM   #17043
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Zary can't skate very well, and faded badly as the season wound down.
Ahhh, love the random positivity that manifests out of thin air....

This post is like tourette's syndrome for the internet.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:12 AM   #17044
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Zary can't skate very well, and faded badly as the season wound down.
I don't think this is a true statement. Nor do I think you watched a lot if wranglers games. Next season Zary will see bigger minutes and we will get a good look At what zary can be. I think it's another year in the Ahl for sure, but he is still a good prospect that can definitely be a middle 6 player in the NHL.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:17 AM   #17045
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Garrioch:
the Senators will elect to take winger Alex DeBrincat to arbitration at Thursday's 5 p.m. deadline. He doesn't want to sign here, the club can get a 15% discount on his $9 million contract if successful so it makes sense.

^ so $1.35m off 9m.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:19 AM   #17046
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Feels like they're following the exact template of the Tkachuk deal last year.
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Feels like they're following the exact template of the Tkachuk deal last year.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:20 AM   #17048
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Ahhh, love the random positivity that manifests out of thin air....

This post is like tourette's syndrome for the internet.
This place mocked calling up Duer too because he wasn't an NHLer big=good ect.

He was one of the Flames best forwards many nights
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This place mocked calling up Duer too because he wasn't an NHLer big=good ect.

He was one of the Flames best forwards many nights
I’m so excited to see how he plays this season. He was great.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:42 AM   #17050
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People are undervaluing Fantilli. He would likely be the #1 overall in every draft of the last decade except McDavid’s year, and maybe Matthews.
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Old 06-15-2023, 08:58 AM   #17051
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Why would Anaheim do that?

It would cost 16th + Wolf + Coronato + 2024 1st, something astronomical.
Even that doesn't do it.
The answer is nothing.
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This place mocked calling up Duer too because he wasn't an NHLer big=good ect.

He was one of the Flames best forwards many nights
True. Of course, if Duer is one of your best forwards most nights, you'll miss the playoffs.
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True. Of course, if Duer is one of your best forwards most nights, you'll miss the playoffs.
Yes, a hockey team relies on multiple people performing well in their roles.
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Old 06-15-2023, 09:18 AM   #17054
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What would it take for the flames to move up to the number 2 pick.

Lindholm + Hanifin

Is that enough?
It's not a question of it being enough, it's a question of whether Anaheim really values those two in a trade.

They would need to sign them to huge extentions to make it work, and what does that really accomplish for them?

They lose out on a potential franchise centre while getting two very players at huge cap hits. It makes no sense for them to do this. It decreases their chances of eventually building a Stanley Cup winner, while increasing the Flames liklihood.

There is zero chance of trading for the #2 pick without having the #3-5 pick and a can't miss prospect to offer
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Old 06-15-2023, 09:39 AM   #17055
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Even that doesn't do it.
The answer is nothing.
Exactly. If Flames were the ones with the 2nd overall pick drafting Fantilli, would you trade it for that package? I certainly wouldn't.
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Old 06-15-2023, 09:44 AM   #17056
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What would it take for the flames to move up to the number 2 pick.

Lindholm + Hanifin

Is that enough?
Is Treliving the new GM for Anaheim?

He is probably the only GM that would do those kind of deal
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Old 06-15-2023, 09:46 AM   #17057
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Is Treliving the new GM for Anaheim?

He is probably the only GM that would do those kind of deal
Based on all those times Treliving traded a high pick away for two pending UFAs.
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Old 06-15-2023, 09:58 AM   #17058
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Based on all those times Treliving traded a high pick away for two pending UFAs.
Yeah even Treliving wouldn’t do it

But he is the closest. He is always willing to trade future for win now stuff
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Old 06-15-2023, 10:22 AM   #17059
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The loss of development time from a concussion and then a broken ankle is a pretty good reason.

Hopefully Zary will get a shot next season. I’d like to see him fight for the #4 C spot in camp - he’ll probably have to beat out Rucizka.
That's BS. He played almost the full season in the AHL last year (72 games) plus playoffs.

Our development system is garbage. This is the only team in the league not giving their prospects any playing time in the NHL. We had a team backed up with useless veteran journeymen, and the team spent picks to acquire many of those journeymen.
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Old 06-15-2023, 10:48 AM   #17060
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Zary can't skate very well, and faded badly as the season wound down.
Gotta disagree with you there- he USED to be deficient in his mobility, but he’s obviously worked diligently on fixing it. I watched him like a hawk in camp, and in the few Wrangler games I saw, and he’s good in that area now.
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