If the Alberta NDP changed it's name, so many people would take the blinders off and realize it's actually exactly what they're looking for.
I too once held out hope that the Alberta Party would gain traction as a centrist party, and it was looking good at one point, but as soon as it just became the party of misfit conservatives, the writing was on the wall. They're dead in the water
All the UCP would have to do is run an ad where Notley is wearing orange or standing in front of an NDP sign to counter this.
I know voters are dumb but are they really so dumb that they would switch their beliefs based on a new colour scheme?
How is this remotely democratic? She gets elected as leader by a small portion of the population, and then she can get elected Premier of the province if she wins some cherry picked rural riding.
In the UK the Prime Minister is chosen by a caucus vote......
All the UCP would have to do is run an ad where Notley is wearing orange or standing in front of an NDP sign to counter this.
I know voters are dumb but are they really so dumb that they would switch their beliefs based on a new colour scheme?
Probably? People call the NDP far left, the political opposite of the Wildrose, blame the NDP for the consequences of the price of oil dropping, etc., all because their name is NDP and they use the colour orange. These aren’t even dumb people, these are people you can otherwise have a normal conversation with.
When it comes to politics, most people put in zero effort. They go based on what they directly experience and what they’re told. So yeah, I’d say it’s a good bet that people are dumb enough to switch their beliefs based on a colour scheme. Most of them are formed based on one.
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It's so funny how strongly some people seem outraged over the voting results. It costs $10 to vote. $10, that's it. 180,000 people paid this $10 to vote out of 4.5M eligible voting population. You could have helped voting someone else rather than bitching about it now.
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It's so funny how strongly some people seem outraged over the voting results. It costs $10 to vote. $10, that's it. 180,000 people paid this $10 to vote out of 4.5M eligible voting population. You could have helped voting someone else rather than bitching about it now.
You shouldn't have to pay to participate in democracy, and you certainly shouldn't have to donate to a party you disapprove of (improving their financial standing for the next election). How would I feel today if I had bought a membership, and know my $10 is helping Smith campaign in an election now? I'd have to punch myself in the taint.
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It's so funny how strongly some people seem outraged over the voting results. It costs $10 to vote. $10, that's it. 180,000 people paid this $10 to vote out of 4.5M eligible voting population. You could have helped voting someone else rather than bitching about it now.
This take is ridiculous. Any compassionate politician who understand democracy would take this opportunity to call an early election. She has pro-actively decided that's not happening, because she wants six months of Danielle Smith fireworks to create her own alt-right chaos before she's booted out.
She has said multiple times now she thinks she's unelectable.
Why should Albertans help her by buying a UCP membership to platform these type of people we don't agree with? She should respect Albertans by letting them pick who they want as leader.
This is a hugely risky political gamble that a conniving opportunist took so she can platform her ill-informed narceissistic brand of politics.
What is going on is technically legal according to a New Westminster system, but completely undemocratic.
Kenney resigns with 51%. Smith stays on with 53%.
That should be enough indication that she's only in this for herself.
Good luck, Alberta. You're going to need it this winter.
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It's so funny how strongly some people seem outraged over the voting results. It costs $10 to vote. $10, that's it. 180,000 people paid this $10 to vote out of 4.5M eligible voting population. You could have helped voting someone else rather than bitching about it now.
Is this a serious post?
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You shouldn't have to pay to participate in democracy, and you certainly shouldn't have to donate to a party you disapprove of (improving their financial standing for the next election). How would I feel today if I had bought a membership, and know my $10 is helping Smith campaign in an election now? I'd have to punch myself in the taint.
Yeah, pretty similar arguments over condominium boards. "I paid for my condo, why should I waste my valuable time participating in its management?"
It doesn't matter how you feel about supporting a party you don't like with your $10. What matters is the better outcome. Democracy is not free and cannot be free. You have to be involved and invested in it.
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Yeah, pretty similar arguments over condominium boards. "I paid for my condo, why should I waste my valuable time participating in its management?"
It doesn't matter how you feel about supporting a party you don't like with your $10. What matters is the better outcome. Democracy is not free and cannot be free. You have to be involved and invested in it.
That condo board is not the same argument at all. I don't even know how you could think that up.
And no, actually voting for a politician should never cost money. Only people with disposable income should be able to participate in Democracy? I don't think that's the intention of a government decided by the "will of the people".
Yeah, pretty similar arguments over condominium boards. "I paid for my condo, why should I waste my valuable time participating in its management?"
It doesn't matter how you feel about supporting a party you don't like with your $10. What matters is the better outcome. Democracy is not free and cannot be free. You have to be involved and invested in it.
Yeah, pretty similar arguments over condominium boards. "I paid for my condo, why should I waste my valuable time participating in its management?"
It doesn't matter how you feel about supporting a party you don't like with your $10. What matters is the better outcome. Democracy is not free and cannot be free. You have to be involved and invested in it.
Can you imagine how just the left wingers on this site would take joy in trying to "John Scott" there way into the allstar game the UCP election?
It's a perfect system,put your money where your mouth is.
It's a perfect system,put your money where your mouth is.
The system is actually pretty disgusting, but it is better than many known alternatives. I would much rather have parties with various platforms arguing with each other in a civilised setting than one party killing and incarcerating people for speaking against it. My point was that those who scream bloody murder now will likely not even bother supporting their NDP candidate in the general elections, because it takes a little bit of effort.
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The system is actually pretty disgusting, but it is better than many known alternatives. I would much rather have parties with various platforms arguing with each other in a civilised setting than one party killing and incarcerating people for speaking against it. My point was that those who scream bloody murder now will likely not even bother supporting their NDP candidate in the general elections, because it takes a little bit of effort.
My wife has already donated, and I will too. Happy to support anyone who has a chance at defeating this government. That doesn't mean I should have to financially support the opposition, as Toews was pretty far form what I consider a good choice anyway.
My wife has already donated, and I will too. Happy to support anyone who has a chance at defeating this government.
Good! So you did put your money where your mouth is.
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Good! So you did put your money where your mouth is.
NDP has been out-fundraising the UCP for a while now. Albertans are putting their money where there mouths are, but they shouldn't have to pony up more to pick the least worst option on the opposite team to legitimize their votes.
Trumpette should call an early election. She won't. That's all you need to know about how much she respects Albertans.
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Can a conservative tell me the appeal of Danielle Smith please.
(no snarky answers on conversatives behalf please, I want to know the answer, not left wingers venting angrily).
I don’t really understand what all the outrage is about. In my opinion she’s on the same level as Kenney. A corporate puppet who pretends as if they are going to help working class people.
I get that the spectrum in Alberta is heavily tilted to the right, but the NDP is only far left if you remove.... basically the entire left. Anyone who honestly says that they are a centrist in Alberta would not touch the UCP with a thirty foot pole.
I would even argue that the NDP is basically a Lougheed-era Progressive Conservative party. The conservative movement in Canada, both the UCP and CPC, have taken hard turns to the right post-mergers, leaving the centre (and even the centre-right) behind.
I remember reading something (so don't take this as anything researched) about Grant Notley's NDP in that one of the biggest challenges he faced was how many of his ideals and policies were mirrored by Lougheed, so it was difficult to gain traction as an opposition party. They definitely had differences, but they were more alike than not.
When I looked at the 2015 NDP's election, a lot of their platform at the time felt like Lougheed era policies and ideals. They are not the same, but I would say the ANDP are as far left of centre as the Lougheed PCs were right of centre.. and that's not a whole lot.
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