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Old 04-05-2019, 02:00 PM   #1681
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Soooo in BC gas prices go up and the government is going to subsidize


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Just as an aside, the UCP response to Notley's point last night that Kenney hadn't seen any pipelines built while he was in Ottawa


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I also hate that whenever talking about pipelines Notley just refers to it as "The" pipeline. It's like to her it's just one and once that's done, we're all set
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I'm curious - since Kenney is willing to keep Mark Smith on board - for reasons no one can really understand why - can any of the conservatives on this board explain why this is a good idea? Seem to be a lot of silence coming from the right in this thread about the Mark Smith debacle.
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I'm curious - since Kenney is willing to keep Mark Smith on board - for reasons no one can really understand why - can any of the conservatives on this board explain why this is a good idea? Seem to be a lot of silence coming from the right in this thread about the Mark Smith debacle.
Party leaders make the decisions and everyone falls in line even with stuff they personally don’t agree with. That’s a big reason I hate party politics and would never run provincially or federally.
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I'm curious - since Kenney is willing to keep Mark Smith on board - for reasons no one can really understand why - can any of the conservatives on this board explain why this is a good idea? Seem to be a lot of silence coming from the right in this thread about the Mark Smith debacle.
I truly have no idea....all parties make very odd decisions and i am assuming for reasons we will never know.

Why is Notley refusing to identify sexual harassers in her caucus? Why was it handled internally and not by criminal investigation (particularly if you read some of the allegations)...same deal. There has to be reasons that we are not likely to ever know.
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I truly have no idea....all parties make very odd decisions and i am assuming for reasons we will never know.

Why is Notley refusing to identify sexual harassers in her caucus? Why was it handled internally and not by criminal investigation (particularly if you read some of the allegations)...same deal. There has to be reasons that we are not likely to ever know.
You're 100% right, it should be dealt with. I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you there, other than the "whataboutism" that seems to be the only answer for the Mark Smith defense, which isn't much of an answer at all.
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I truly have no idea....all parties make very odd decisions and i am assuming for reasons we will never know.

Why is Notley refusing to identify sexual harassers in her caucus? Why was it handled internally and not by criminal investigation (particularly if you read some of the allegations)...same deal. There has to be reasons that we are not likely to ever know.
More importantly, why are those harassers still members of her party. They should be ousted and the same goes for Smith.
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I'm curious - since Kenney is willing to keep Mark Smith on board - for reasons no one can really understand why - can any of the conservatives on this board explain why this is a good idea? Seem to be a lot of silence coming from the right in this thread about the Mark Smith debacle.
Because it is too late to have a new candidates in that riding, and it is a riding UCP is almost certain to win no matter how bad the candidate.
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Because it is too late to have a new candidates in that riding, and it is a riding UCP is almost certain to win no matter how bad the candidate.
I'm not sure about that. The issue was exposed before the deadline, and Kenney did nothing, not even parachute a new candidate in as he likes to do in certain ridings.

What does Kenney see in Smith that makes Albertans wrong in asking for his removal? Or what does Smith have on Kenney to retain his favored status like this? These are important questions to be asking our future government. This is extremely concerning.

It also begs the question what kind of vetting process the UCP had while finding candidates to nominate. Kenney promised in 2018 that there would be no bozo eruptions and "lake of fire" candidates and he would make sure of it.

How did so many slip through, especially since many of these transgressions (including his own) happened well before the election?
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Because it is too late to have a new candidates in that riding, and it is a riding UCP is almost certain to win no matter how bad the candidate.
Then couldn’t he replace him with someone else if it’s a slam dunk riding for the UCP?
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I'm not sure about that. The issue was exposed before the deadline, and Kenney did nothing, not even parachute a new candidate in as he likes to do in certain ridings.

What does Kenney see in Smith that makes Albertans wrong in asking for his removal? Or what does Smith have on Kenney to retain his favored status like this? These are important questions to be asking our future government. This is extremely concerning.

It also begs the question what kind of vetting process the UCP had while finding candidates to nominate. Kenney promised in 2018 that there would be no bozo eruptions and "lake of fire" candidates and he would make sure of it.

How did so many slip through, especially since many of these transgressions (including his own) happened well before the election?
The UCP don't care. Obviously the NDP have held into this information for a while, releasing it as the election draws closer.
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Then couldn’t he replace him with someone else if it’s a slam dunk riding for the UCP?
There's a date after which new candidates can't be added to the election, which has passed. Though I believe at least some of this information started to come out before then.
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Just as an aside, the UCP response to Notley's point last night that Kenney hadn't seen any pipelines built while he was in Ottawa


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The pipeline argument is just weak as it’s a provincial election and I think every party (maybe not the Greens?), is in favour. It’s just a pointless discussion.

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Then couldn’t he replace him with someone else if it’s a slam dunk riding for the UCP?
No. Truthfully, that’s why he’s still there. If he kicks him out the UPC have no candidate there.
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The pipeline argument is just weak as it’s a provincial election and I think every party (maybe not the Greens?), is in favour. It’s just a pointless discussion.



No. Truthfully, that’s why he’s still there. If he kicks him out the UPC have no candidate there.
Some will obviously work harder to fight for them. As been shown Notley spent her first 2 years definitely not for them and more against them. She changed her tune once her partnership with Trudeau started to hurt her. Who knows when she will change her tune again.

The premier of Alberta should absolutely be pushing hard at every angle to get something done. If the premier all of a sudden stops fighting to get it done for 2 years, that is absolutely going to set the province back. As now 2 are dead.
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I'm curious - since Kenney is willing to keep Mark Smith on board - for reasons no one can really understand why - can any of the conservatives on this board explain why this is a good idea? Seem to be a lot of silence coming from the right in this thread about the Mark Smith debacle.
I was reading up on that and discovered that Smith has apologised for his comments. Kenney said the comments were wrong but decided to give Smith a second chance saying he deserves one.

The question that comes to mind is was Smith sincere and does he deserve a second chance. IMO I would have removed him and put another candidate in his place.
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The full interview as opposed to the short clip that Kenney uses. You can decide for yourself.

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Some will obviously work harder to fight for them. As been shown Notley spent her first 2 years definitely not for them and more against them. She changed her tune once her partnership with Trudeau started to hurt her. Who knows when she will change her tune again.

The premier of Alberta should absolutely be pushing hard at every angle to get something done. If the premier all of a sudden stops fighting to get it done for 2 years, that is absolutely going to set the province back. As now 2 are dead.
Exactly. Notley can fake as much support for the oilpatch as she wants, but her record is that she ruined the industry in her first 2 years and then changed course to be a "champion" once re-election looked.
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The full interview as opposed to the short clip that Kenney uses. You can decide for yourself.

Case in point why she should not be the leader of our province.
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