You Know What Really Grinds My Gears....The Sequel!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by strombad

10-15 percent is generally acceptable as far as road standards apply.

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Could your provide a source for that please?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by strombad

As frustrating as lane choice might be, it's infinitely more frustrating that people think excessive speeding is acceptable. It's not just against the law for no reason, it's for SAFETY. Drive SAFELY and it seems like these problems may be fixed. Oh, wait, you need to drive 140 on the highway and expect everyone to move over for you because you slept in? Poor boy.

Very true. But impeding that person is also unsafe. Anyone speeding that much is also most likely willing to pass on the right, or weave through traffic. Now a bad situation is worse. Move over, let that person by safely, and let the cops deal with them. Safer for everybody that way.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

I used to care, and get all bent out of shape. But it's not worth it. I just ignore it and move over when safe and let the person pass. If it's a single lane road like the one posted above I'll maybe slow down and move over a little bit so the person can pass me.

I was thinking about this, but I have never really understood how this helps. How does moving over a bit help somebody pass? I guess if you're on a country or dirt road or something, but if somebody did that on the Trans-Canada or similar, I don't think I would take up that invitation to pass even if I wanted to.

[burn_this_city]

I always thought it was so you could see around them easier.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I was thinking about this, but I have never really understood how this helps. How does moving over a bit help somebody pass? I guess if you're on a country or dirt road or something, but if somebody did that on the Trans-Canada or similar, I don't think I would take up that invitation to pass even if I wanted to.

The moving over helps with sight lines, IMO, on single lane roads. Espeically if the vehicle is large.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Could your provide a source for that please?

It is purely anecdotal, but do you think the speed limits were set to accommodate 2014 sports cars or 1981 clunkers hauling a trailer behind them? It's for the lowest common denominator car / driver / weather conditions combination.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by troutman

Shared office printer - some people print a dozen jobs, but don't bother to pick them up for an hour. I have to search through 100 pages to find my one page e-mail.

When looking for a new IT guy, find one that will remove permissions for the other people to print.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Lol. Because you don't understand how the left lane works, that means I've slept in and am trying to go 140? I entered this argument discussing with Duffman why cruising in the left lane is considered wrong.

No, I should have stayed away from this argument, like I have been for the last couple years. People like you just fail to grasp the concept. Not even worth my time. Flame away. Have fun with your attitude that your level of breaking the law is ok, but other peoples' is wrong. Good one.

You seem to have invented the attitude that one wrong is better than another. You speed excessively, so people have to be courteous to you. Got it, great mentality.

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Could your provide a source for that please?

It's hard to find the actual source, but I can tell you for a fact that (on the highway, at least) there is no listed fine for driving 10 km over the speed limit. You'd essentially have to be driving recklessly or have something wrong with your vehicle. Much the same with residential areas and going 55 (33-34 in a playground zone). Doesn't mean it's safe, simply means it's acceptable. So uh, source? Family member in law enforcement I guess.

Originally Posted by btimbit

Very true. But impeding that person is also unsafe. Anyone speeding that much is also most likely willing to pass on the right, or weave through traffic. Now a bad situation is worse. Move over, let that person by safely, and let the cops deal with them. Safer for everybody that way.

Looking at it that way, you are right. And generally, if the person seems extra aggressive I'm not opposed to protecting myself through distance.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I was thinking about this, but I have never really understood how this helps. How does moving over a bit help somebody pass? I guess if you're on a country or dirt road or something, but if somebody did that on the Trans-Canada or similar, I don't think I would take up that invitation to pass even if I wanted to.

When towing my trailer I regularly move partially into the shoulder if the guy behind me is going to pass, I don't do it when just driving a car. I figure if I move over it will be easier for them to see around the trailer when it is safe to pass me.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by strombad

It's hard to find the actual source, but I can tell you for a fact that (on the highway, at least) there is no listed fine for driving 10 km over the speed limit. You'd essentially have to be driving recklessly or have something wrong with your vehicle. Much the same with residential areas and going 55 (33-34 in a playground zone). Doesn't mean it's safe, simply means it's acceptable. So uh, source? Family member in law enforcement I guess.


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It would have been faster to type no source......

[OutOfTheCube]

Glenmore at 530 in the morning grinds my gears. 90% of people lose any conception of even trying to do the speed limit at that time. I move along at 85-90 (in the right lane, thanks folks ) and people just whip by me at 110+ the whole way. Sometimes people even jump into the right lane when it opens up for exiting (like on to Deerfoot) and blast past me on the right before pulling in front of me, even when there was room to pass me on the left.

And then we wonder why there's so many brutal accidents on it all the time.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

It would have been faster to type no source......

What would you say the percentage of posts you make with actual content vs. The percentage without any conversational value are?

I'd like it in a pie chart, please.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

If anyone had caught up to us. I absolutely would've got into the right lane. Had he pulled into the left lane behind me I would've got into the right lane.

Why were you in the left lane in the first place?

1. Right lane except to pass.
2. Right lane except to pass.
3. Right lane except to pass.

Which of the above is correct? Oh yah - all of them. "Left lane when I'm more or less alone" didn't even make the list of possible answers. "Left lane unless the other guy goes in the left lane" didn't either.

Consistency is what makes a good, safe driver - not reflexes, not calculating risk, and definitely not worrying about how other people drive. On the highway, stay in the m'fing right lane except to pass. Don't follow too close. Drive an appropriate speed for the road conditions and speed limit. Signal. Make smooth changes in speed and direction. Know what other vehicles are behind you, and in front of you. If you can handle those 6 simple things, you won't suck at driving, because other drivers will be able to infer what you are doing and what you are going to do. Otherwise you will suck, and in most people's cases - already do.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by strombad

What would you say the percentage of posts you make with actual content vs. The percentage without any conversational value are?

I'd like it in a pie chart, please.

Don't throw you toys.

You made a claim, and I asked for a source.

You could have said, " I don't have one, it is just what I noticed through years of driving".

Give it time and Mr. Y. will be along to thank you posts soon enough.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by strombad

You seem to have invented the attitude that one wrong is better than another. You speed excessively, so people have to be courteous to you. Got it, great mentality.

Your defense is to accuse me of being an excessive speeder? You're the one claiming to speed. I'm the one talking about proper left lane courtesy on the highway. I've had 4 speeding tickets in 20 years of driving, two within my first 2 years. Sounds like an excessive speeder.

You're just going to refuse the logic, right? How can you not see what we are talking about? What is so hard about this concept? Why is this world so full of strugglers?

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by jammies

Why were you in the left lane in the first place?

1. Right lane except to pass.
2. Right lane except to pass.
3. Right lane except to pass.

Which of the above is correct? Oh yah - all of them. "Left lane when I'm more or less alone" didn't even make the list of possible answers. "Left lane unless the other guy goes in the left lane" didn't either.

Consistency is what makes a good, safe driver - not reflexes, not calculating risk, and definitely not worrying about how other people drive. On the highway, stay in the m'fing right lane except to pass. Don't follow too close. Drive an appropriate speed for the road conditions and speed limit. Signal. Make smooth changes in speed and direction. Know what other vehicles are behind you, and in front of you. If you can handle those 6 simple things, you won't suck at driving, because other drivers will be able to infer what you are doing and what you are going to do. Otherwise you will suck, and in most people's cases - already do.

ha ha, OK Philippe Létourneau, I'll try to stop breaking laws and being and ######bag behind the wheel.

Oh and read one of my many posts regarding why I was in the left lane.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Don't throw you toys.

You made a claim, and I asked for a source.

You could have said, " I don't have one, it is just what I noticed through years of driving".

Give it time and Mr. Y. will be along to thank you posts soon enough.

As I said, family member who works in law enforcement. Would you like their name and number? Badge number? Shoe size? General demeanour?

Listen sweetie, I still love you, let's not fight. But your posts have been excessively troll-like towards me. Knock it off.

Originally Posted by 4X4

Your defense is to accuse me of being an excessive speeder? You're the one claiming to speed. I'm the one talking about proper left lane courtesy on the highway. I've had 4 speeding tickets in 20 years of driving, two within my first 2 years. Sounds like an excessive speeder.

You're just going to refuse the logic, right? How can you not see what we are talking about? What is so hard about this concept? Why is this world so full of strugglers?

If you never speed, what are you complaining about? When would you utilize the left lane? It's unacceptable for you to enter the left lane if you do not ever cross the speed limit.

Last I checked, traffic going below the speed limit was to stay right. Just because you agree with a convention that is not universally accepted nor supported by actual law means nothing.

I'm not saying YOU are wrong. I'm just not saying you're right either. I can rock the left lane all I want if I'm going faster than most. I see what you're talking about, I get it, but really, it's irrelevant.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by strombad

As I said, family member who works in law enforcement. Would you like their name and number? Badge number? Shoe size? General demeanour?

Listen sweetie, I still love you, let's not fight. But your posts have been excessively troll-like towards me. Knock it off.




If you never speed, what are you complaining about? When would you utilize the left lane? It's unacceptable for you to enter the left lane if you do not ever cross the speed limit.

Last I checked, traffic going below the speed limit was to stay right. Just because you agree with a convention that is not universally accepted nor supported by actual law means nothing.

I'm not saying YOU are wrong. I'm just not saying you're right either. I can rock the left lane all I want if I'm going faster than most. I see what you're talking about, I get it, but really, it's irrelevant.

This right here is pretty damning evidence that you don't have any idea how the left lane works.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by strombad

It's hard to find the actual source, but I can tell you for a fact that (on the highway, at least) there is no listed fine for driving 10 km over the speed limit. You'd essentially have to be driving recklessly or have something wrong with your vehicle. Much the same with residential areas and going 55 (33-34 in a playground zone). Doesn't mean it's safe, simply means it's acceptable. So uh, source? Family member in law enforcement I guess.

Completely wrong. There's a fine for 1 km/h over the speed limit. Would you get a ticket? Debatable, but there's fines all the way from 1-50 and then 50+.

Edit: Source - http://www.transportation.alberta.ca...plquickref.pdf page 7.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by strombad

If you never speed, what are you complaining about? When would you utilize the left lane? It's unacceptable for you to enter the left lane if you do not ever cross the speed limit.

I see traffic often traveling under the speed limit on Deerfoot. Why it is? I don't know. But when they're going 80-90kph, the left lane is fair game for those going the speed limit.