Sean FRICKIN Monahan

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Treliving = NG

Funny how things have changed around here, used to be if you said anything bad about Treliving you'd get dogpiled on. Guy is a hack and is proving it again in Toronto.
Overpay toxic contracts and bad UFA signings, just needs to dump a bunch of high draft picks now.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Funny how things have changed around here, used to be if you said anything bad about Treliving you'd get dogpiled on. Guy is a hack and is proving it again in Toronto.
Overpay toxic contracts and bad UFA signings, just needs to dump a bunch of high draft picks now.

I think Treliving is right in the middle of managerial talent. He’s had some wins, some blunders and some bad luck.

But the real change is how Monahan is viewed. A lot of CP wanted him out and were talking about giving up assets to get rid of him long before the Kadri situation came about. He was a no-talent bum riding Johnny’s coattails, he was soft, had no compete and had lost his only real skill - scoring goals, according to them.

[PepsiFree]

You guys are acting like you’re surprised that time brings perspective.

Of course opinions on Treliving and Monahan have changed. Treliving’s moves in the last year or so of his contract have turned out as a total disaster for this team, and Monahan has largely gotten past his injury issues to the point where he’s an effective player again.

It would be weird if opinions on them didn’t change.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think Treliving is right in the middle of managerial talent. He’s had some wins, some blunders and some bad luck.

But the real change is how Monahan is viewed. A lot of CP wanted him out and were talking about giving up assets to get rid of him long before the Kadri situation came about. He was a no-talent bum riding Johnny’s coattails, he was soft, had no compete and had lost his only real skill - scoring goals, according to them.

There were some who wanted him gone, but there were quite a few who were also hoping that the hip surgeries he had in the offseason he was traded were going to lead to a resurgence. At the time I thought it would have been prudent for the Flames to have kept Monahan for the final season of his contract and looked to see if he bounced back in anyway as he there was still some upside to the player and injuries had been the main factor rather than age or drive.

I just looked back in the Monahan trad thread and my first response was even if the price was the same, giving up our first round pick, why not get rid of Lucic for the cap hit rather than Monahan. I’m sure a team would have taken Lucic for the season at a smaller cap hit than Monahan for the same 1st rounder and then we would have been the beneficiaries of a bounce back Mony.

[manwiches]

As happy as I am for Sean, and as much as my heart breaks for him for what's happened, he should have been a Flame for life and been our captain. What horrible asset management...

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[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

There were some who wanted him gone, but there were quite a few who were also hoping that the hip surgeries he had in the offseason he was traded were going to lead to a resurgence. At the time I thought it would have been prudent for the Flames to have kept Monahan for the final season of his contract and looked to see if he bounced back in anyway as he there was still some upside to the player and injuries had been the main factor rather than age or drive.

I just looked back in the Monahan trad thread and my first response was even if the price was the same, giving up our first round pick, why not get rid of Lucic for the cap hit rather than Monahan. I’m sure a team would have taken Lucic for the season at a smaller cap hit than Monahan for the same 1st rounder and then we would have been the beneficiaries of a bounce back Mony.

There were rumours about Lucic being moved but I think he had a nmc and may have triggered it

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You guys are acting like you’re surprised that time brings perspective.

Of course opinions on Treliving and Monahan have changed. Treliving’s moves in the last year or so of his contract have turned out as a total disaster for this team, and Monahan has largely gotten past his injury issues to the point where he’s an effective player again.

It would be weird if opinions on them didn’t change.

Sure, but with Monahan at least the opinions are now all “I always loved that guy and it’s a crime he was moved”. It’s not a change of opinion so much as a retcon.

[Mattman]

Mony gets another against the No Goods up North last night.

5 goals 4 assists and +3 so far in 8 games.
Columbus is 4-3-1 and in the 2nd wildcard spot.

This is not to dwell on "What ifs" but I'm gonna keep bumping this thread as Mony and the Blue Jackets continue to succeed. Go Mony Go!

[Muta]

Would love to have Mony back here in YYC one day. Like Backlund, he fits the Flaming C to a tee, both on and off the ice.

[calumniate]

We need a centre.. let's do it!

[BigThief]

As much as I'd love Monahan back I think he's right where he needs to be.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Sure, but with Monahan at least the opinions are now all “I always loved that guy and it’s a crime he was moved”. It’s not a change of opinion so much as a retcon.

I'm very happy for Monahan but at the time I would have been fine with moving on from him because he was a broken down player at the time and nobody could know what he had left in the tank as his production was on a step decline in his last two seasons as a Flame. Still I wasn't on board with trading a first round pick to unload the last year of his contract.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I lub him.

[FanIn80]

Come back Monahome!

[Sylvanfan]

Seeing Monahan have some early success is a nice feel good story after the summer that just happened. Hope he can keep it uo and have a few good healthy seasons. He's an easy guy to root for.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

There were some who wanted him gone, but there were quite a few who were also hoping that the hip surgeries he had in the offseason he was traded were going to lead to a resurgence. At the time I thought it would have been prudent for the Flames to have kept Monahan for the final season of his contract and looked to see if he bounced back in anyway as he there was still some upside to the player and injuries had been the main factor rather than age or drive.

I just looked back in the Monahan trad thread and my first response was even if the price was the same, giving up our first round pick, why not get rid of Lucic for the cap hit rather than Monahan. I’m sure a team would have taken Lucic for the season at a smaller cap hit than Monahan for the same 1st rounder and then we would have been the beneficiaries of a bounce back Mony.

You also need to remember Monahan didn't bounce back that year...which was his only year left under contract with the Flames, there is a pretty good chance he moves on anyway as a UFA. Lucic also had a NMC

[Strange Brew]

I don't recall many wanting him gone for the sake of it, the fairly obvious argument was that he was eating about 8% of the cap and wasn't that effective anymore. IIRC there were a few staunch Monahan defenders who wanted to argue that he was still worth his contract but giving up a first to get rid of him obviously disproves that argument.

I'm very happy for him that he is healthy and finding success again. Hard to really see where he would have fit in on the Flames, other than we'd have an extra first round pick which would be nice.