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Old 10-22-2018, 01:00 PM   #1661
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Huh Patrick Peterson has asked for a trade. Can’t blame him, I’d want to get out of there too. Wasting his career now. I’m hopeful this trade deadline actually has some movement.

Denver can go ahead and ship out DT while they’re at it. It’s his last season in Denver anyway so get something for him on his way out.
Chiefs should be all over this.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:09 PM   #1662
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Eagles and Chiefs have the most desperate need for CB (besides the Bucs), and have the cheap rookie QB deal too, gotta think one of them gets it done. Or watch the Rams somehow add him.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:19 PM   #1663
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What a horrific trade for the Cowboys, fleece job for the Raiders

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Old 10-22-2018, 01:23 PM   #1664
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Cowboys aren’t a playoff team, why are those maniacs trading first round picks? Haha stupid cowboys.

Cooper is pretty good though, now that he’s out of the “guaranteed $100 to rube” dumpster fire that is the Gruden Raiders he should do better.
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Eagles and Chiefs have the most desperate need for CB (besides the Bucs), and have the cheap rookie QB deal too, gotta think one of them gets it done. Or watch the Rams somehow add him.
Eagles CB situation wouldn't be nearly as bad if Schwartz would stop being such a stubborn moron with Jalen Mills.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:27 PM   #1666
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...dallas-cowboys

It's official. The Raiders have traded Amari Cooper to the Cowboys for a 1st round pick. Bitter sweet because Cooper is a good receiver but he's struggled with drops and games where he looks like he's going through the motions. Maybe a change of scenery will be good for him. Very happy with the return for the Raiders as that's now 3 first round picks in the 2019 draft.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:29 PM   #1667
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How is it bitter sweet lol. You robbed the Cowboys so badly Jerry is probably going to get another facelift because of it. This could very easily be a top 10 pick for Cooper.
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Old 10-22-2018, 01:32 PM   #1668
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awesome deal for Oakland in theory. Too bad it's Gruden, he'll find a way to screw it up.
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Cooper is pretty good though, now that he’s out of the “guaranteed $100 to rube” dumpster fire that is the Gruden Raiders he should do better.
I don't really think Dak/Garrett is really an upgrade over Carr/Gruden.
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Raiders might get to four first round picks next year, gotta think Carr will be dealt and obviously Jacksonville is desperate.
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I don't really think Dak/Garrett is really an upgrade over Carr/Gruden.
Yeah I feel a little bit bad for Cooper as Prescott struggles getting the ball to WR's. He was great when he had Witten as a security blanket and Elliot was tearing up the league making for favorable play action passes. Probably not the best situation for him to land.
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How is it bitter sweet lol. You robbed the Cowboys so badly Jerry is probably going to get another facelift because of it. This could very easily be a top 10 pick for Cooper.
I don't think the Cowboys will finish that low but top 20 pick is likely. Cooper started his career with back to back 1000 yard seasons which is pretty rare. Things went bad last season but Downing made such a mess of the offense that everyone involved had down seasons. This year with the offensive line being amongst the worst in the league Carr hasn't had much time to get the ball to his WR's. Really there's no guarantee you draft a receiver in the first round better than Cooper as Kevin White was drafted right behind him and has done nothing and plenty of recent receivers picked in the 1st round haven't even hit 1000 yards.
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Raiders might get to four first round picks next year, gotta think Carr will be dealt and obviously Jacksonville is desperate.
The Jags can't trade for another QB without Bortles going back in return which is a hard sell for any team seeing his contract makes him very difficult to cut until the 2020 season. I'm thinking that the next player traded is Conley to the Eagles.
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Why won't the Cowboys finish that low? Their current draft position is....ninth. And that's been with a really easy schedule. Their next six games could easily be 0-6. Cooper is at his absolute best a bottom half of the league WR1, and really in today's NFL he's best suited as top end WR2. Those aren't even worth second round picks.

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The Jags can't trade for another QB without Bortles going back in return which is a hard sell for any team seeing his contract makes him very difficult to cut until the 2020 season. I'm thinking that the next player traded is Conley to the Eagles.
Bortles to the Raiders makes all the sense in the world except for Bortles being about 7 years too young for Gruden's liking.
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I’d trash Carr worse but I have a sinking pit in my stomach that he’ll be the Broncos starter next year. Lot of talk that Gruden doesn’t love him, you know he’s a dummy with QBs and the raiders can cut bait on Carr after this year with very little hurt to their cap. They draft a QB high and go to Vegas the year after with a shiny new toy.

Of course Elway is a terrible judge of QB skill so I imagine he’d give Carr $25 mil a year and be happy about it.
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I’d trash Carr worse but I have a sinking pit in my stomach that he’ll be the Broncos starter next year. Lot of talk that Gruden doesn’t love him, you know he’s a dummy with QBs and the raiders can cut bait on Carr after this year with very little hurt to their cap. They draft a QB high and go to Vegas the year after with a shiny new toy.

Of course Elway is a terrible judge of QB skill so I imagine he’d give Carr $25 mil a year and be happy about it.
Carr's a fine QB. He just needs a good offensive line. I'm not convinced he's going anywhere.
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Maybe before the broken leg and back issues but he’s a shell now IMO.
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Carr is fine in a dink and dunk offense that doesn't require stretching the field....which is pretty much Gruden's offense to a T, and Gruden doesn't want him. Not a good sign.
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Also, I'm gonna shock you all, but Jerry might still be the worst GM in sports history.

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Great return, im shocked they got a 1st

Amari looked somgood in years 1 and 2, i remember before last season espn had their top 100 players list and he was like 27th, the 5th ranked WR, but for whatever reason it hasnt happened

Happy they are actually accelerating rebuild here and not just accepting status quo, 3 potential top 15 picks in the draft, plus another extra 1st next year
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