Rob Ford Transgressions Thread

[nik-]

My entire family back home refers to the power as the hydro.

[darockwilder]

It was my understanding that BC Hydro dealt in hydroponically grown weed.

[FireFly]

Everyone but me in my household calls the Enmax bill the hydro bill.

[Zarley]

Hydro? silly easterners.

[pylon]

This thread reminds me, Shell has 10X airmiles on Bitumen right now.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Zarley

Hydro? silly easterners.

So B.C. and Manitoba are now easterners. Even when you look at it most of Alberta energy is hydro, as in coal fired thermal plants.

In these thermal power generating stations, coal is burned to heat water in a boiler and converted to high-pressure steam. The high-pressure steam is directed into a steam turbine which turns the turbine shaft. This shaft is connected to an electrical generator which produces electricity.

[nik-]

lol what?

Coal fired plants are not Hydro. Hydro utilizes moving water to turn a turbine. Steam generation to turn a turbine is at the heart of most power plants, including nuclear, but that doesn't make them hydro either.

[Rathji]

Hydrocarbons are feeling left out now...

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by nik-

lol what?

Coal fired plants are not Hydro. Hydro utilizes moving water to turn a turbine. Steam generation to turn a turbine is at the heart of most power plants, including nuclear, but that doesn't make them hydro either.

The basis of both technologies is water. One uses gravity to move water the other uses heat.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

The basis of both technologies is water. One uses gravity to move water the other uses heat.

The basis of both technologies is a turbine. Coal Fired and Nuclear use steam to turn the turbine, this is not Hydroelectrical. Hydroelectrical uses the water itself and yes, it can be gravity driven.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by nik-

The basis of both technologies is a turbine. Coal Fired and Nuclear use steam to turn the turbine, this is not Hydroelectrical. Hydroelectrical uses the water itself and yes, it can be gravity driven.

Yeah sure I agree hydro electric power is commonly referred to as coming from running water, I wanted to point out that coal fired thermal plants also rely on water to produce energy, so referring to them as hydro can also be correct.

[nik-]

No, it's not correct. Just because there is water involved in the process doesn't mean it's Hydro. You will never hear someone refer to a nuclear plant as Hydro even though the heat from the reaction creates the stream which turns the turbine. Same with coal.

[worth]

Holy man you guys are annoying.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by nik-

No, it's not correct. Just because there is water involved in the process doesn't mean it's Hydro. You will never hear someone refer to a nuclear plant as Hydro even though the heat from the reaction creates the stream which turns the turbine. Same with coal.

Because of it's common usage doesn't mean that both don't use water as a basis of their energy production. Hydro is a prefix for water just as thermal comes from the Greek word for hot springs (water).

[nik-]

Hydro is shorthand for Hydroelectrical ... not the presence of water in the process. Jesus, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone here.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by nik-

Hydro is shorthand for Hydroelectrical ... not the presence of water in the process. Jesus, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone here.

I feel like I'm in the wrong thread...

[Coach]

Originally Posted by nik-

Hydro is shorthand for Hydroelectrical ... not the presence of water in the process. Jesus, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone here.

That's funny, because most of the images Google brings up when searching "hydro' are decisively...green...

Hydro could be the short hand for a lot of things. It's called a prefix.

While I agree it's confusing, it's a freaking word. You might as well argue that Homo means gay. That's it that's all. No other words stem from the prefix homo.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

I feel like I'm in the wrong thread...

I had to double-check which thread it was. I assumed it was the gear grinder.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by getbak

I had to double-check which thread it was. I assumed it was the gear grinder.

This used to be one of my favorite threads, Rob Ford has turned into a real life Chris Farley movie and I eagerly awaited each new post with something new that he did. But now the dorks have ruined it, much like how they ruined the mega weather thread with endless winter tire talk

[Daradon]

Have to jump in here. -nik is right. Vulcan, I think he knows he's wrong, but is trying to change the framing of the argument so he can claim it isn't what he originally meant.

Obviously coal fired plants are not considered hydro power. Either in casual use or specifically. Hydro means powered by the movement of water. Not by the burning of material to create steam to move turbines. Even the graphs show the distinction. Separate areas for coal power and hydro power.

Shoot, by Vulcan's reasoning nuclear power would be classified as hydro power as it uses steam too.

Just admit you goofed man. No biggie. I can see why -nik would be frustrated.

As more more Ford, I'd like to see that too, but there hasn't been much laugh worthy or cringe worthy lately. Which, while disappointing for the spectacle, might be good for Torontonians.