2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

You’ve got the $ and M on the wrong digits. Andersson is looking more at 8.5-9.5m.

he will get it too

[ComixZone]

https://twitter.com/user/status/2002096739072029135

https://twitter.com/user/status/2002096741672452303

https://twitter.com/user/status/2002096744449151022

https://twitter.com/user/status/2002096747896807762

Fair string.

If we look at the Flames:

22/23: The Flames, faced with a hard reality of The Treliving Special (letting star players go for nothing), made the stupid desperate moves, not dissimilar to Buffalo. The Flames just sucked. Treliving car wreck. Treliving walked away, leaving Conroy an absolute mess, with a nice shot of deficit spending in his last summer as GM. Really, the mess left at Conroy’s feet should direct some ire towards ownership/leadership, because you should not let a GM operate a season when he’s on an expiring deal. The same stupidity that saw Treliving handle Giordano and Gaudreau the way he did, was visible in this decision as well.

23/24: Conroy’s first year. Faced with significant contract status issues, he made smart moves with an eye towards the future. Mushy middle finish.

24/25: Conroy concluded a deal he worked on in the season (Markstrom) to give Wolf his time, and generally said they were focused on stability. Better results in the standings, more mushy middle finish but with a worse draft pick.

25/26: It’s December 20th, and the Flames are 30th in points percentage, .001 better points percentage than 31st, .002 points percentages better than 32nd (that’s just funny, but we are in a situation where one more win or loss could have significant impact on the future of the franchise - razor thin margins). In my eyes this season IS the Sharks’ 2022 for the Flames. They can either embrace it with 3 moves, or they can wander and continue this somewhat slow, mushy burn. Can Conroy condense what San Jose did in 2022 and 2023 into one year - and move out Andersson (Burns), Coleman (Meier), and Kadri (Meier/Hertl)? If we were to draw an exact line to what SJ did, it’d probably include Weegar - as San Jose committed and moved players with term in a proactive fashion.

…nothing earth shattering or any great insights other than the constant dumping on Buffalo should really be more pointed towards their general organizational incompetence and not just the concept of ‘rebuilding’, which is what plenty of us have been saying anyways.

It does show that the fate of a franchise can turn in a fairly quick stretch, and given we’re about to hit 4 straight seasons of no playoffs, I think the time to hit the pedal and get to work is upon Conroy, otherwise 4 years could very easily become 8. He has an opportunity here to do some great, meaningful, franchise altering work. A lot of what Connie has done has been very ‘natural’ and just kind of going with the flow of things. Players rejected deals/were not targeted for extensions, so he made moves to the future. Markstrom situation soured, and he had Wolf, so out went Markstrom. I hope we really get to see Conroy put some aggressive steps together here in the next 30-40 days.

Could be a very exciting 6 months for the future of this team.

[TOfan]

^Drance is one of my favourites.

I think the Flames will trade Andersson and I hope Pike is right with his prediction that Andersson will be dealt within three weeks of being named to team Sweden. Seems like a plausible outcome. Some are fearful that the Flames will hold on to Andersson right up to the deadline, I really hope that is not the case.

I also think Coleman has a real good shot of being moved. That might be at the deadline though. Kadri I think is less likely. I’d say the Habs landing Denault signals that, unfortunately. Seems like that could have been a great fit but I think it’s also fair to surmise the Hans didn’t want to pay what the Flames would have wanted. Or maybe the Habs don’t like Kadri's term with Hage coming. Who knows?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TOfan

^Drance is one of my favourites.

I think the Flames will trade Andersson and I hope Pike is right with his prediction that Andersson will be dealt within three weeks of being named to team Sweden. Seems like a plausible outcome. Some are fearful that the Flames will hold on to Andersson right up to the deadline, I really hope that is not the case.

I also think Coleman has a real good shot of being moved. That might be at the deadline though. Kadri I think is less likely. I’d say the Habs landing Denault signals that, unfortunately. Seems like that could have been a great fit but I think it’s also fair to surmise the Hans didn’t want to pay what the Flames would have wanted. Or maybe the Habs don’t like Kadri's term with Hage coming. Who knows?

I think it is the opposite. Kadri goes and Coleman stays. I don’t think you can read much into the Montreal situation. Kadri would be more expensive asset and contract wise and they might think Danault will bounce back. I think he fits better on a team near the end of their window.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think it is the opposite. Kadri goes and Coleman stays. I don’t think you can read much into the Montreal situation. Kadri would be more expensive asset and contract wise and they might think Danault will bounce back. I think he fits better on a team near the end of their window.

If 2 out of the 3 go, I’m happy. Who it is, I’m less concerned about. I think all 3 is more than what the Flames will want to digest. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be happy to see it but, this probably goes without saying, the Flames are quite concerned with maintaining some leadership/winning qualities in the room. Fine. Just don’t miss the opportunity to grab a franchise changing player.

If the Flames end up trading Anderson only. That’s a missed opportunity and they will have done themselves a disservice by leaving the opportunity to grab a franchise changing talent to lottery luck, or fantasy as Maloney might put it.

The lower the Flames finish, the better. That honestly should be CC’s objective. Finish bottom four, preferably bottom two. That might be tough though. Seattle, Nashville, St.Louis, and Vancouver worry me.

Chicago too actually. I think the Bedard injury could absolutely sewer their season.

[TheIronMaiden]

The Flames didn't make a trade before the Holiday freeze. Must mean that they aren't selling and are going to switch to buying to make a playoff push.

[GioforPM]

A bit of a straw man by Drance. I haven’t heard anyone say SJ took forever. But he does ignore the actual failed Buffalo rebuilds when he talks about their periods of trying to win and sucking. Buffalo has tanked twice and it didn’t work for them, for various reasons. Toronto tanked and it’s about to fail.

Plus, the chances are that SJ doesn’t win a cup, despite what seems to be a good rebuild.

[TheIronMaiden]

I get the point he is arguing. But it overlooks the fact that they drafted Ekland in 2021 and he is no small part of their success lately.

[bluejays]

A couple little tidbits on Friedman's latest blog:

17. I’m careful writing about Rasmus Andersson, because I don’t want him telling Eric Francis I have no idea what I’m talking about (and Eric gleefully writing it). The Flames were looking for a first-rounder and a good prospect for him last season. Back then, he wasn’t a rental, so we’ll see if the market’s changed.

18. One thing the Flames (and other teams) learned from the Noah Hanifin deal: don’t give permission for another team to talk to your player unless you have a trade you like. If you do it the other way around, you’re stuck talking to one team. This way, no one can officially talk until you have something you really like.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by bluejays

A couple little tidbits on Friedman's latest blog:

Interesting that Friedman seemingly agrees with my long held take that andersson was worth more when resigning him wasnt part of the convo.

Also interesting that inexperience may have led to us getting less than warranted for hanifin.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Interesting that Friedman seemingly agrees with my long held take that andersson was worth more when resigning him wasnt part of the convo.

Also interesting that inexperience may have led to us getting less than warranted for hanifin.

lol. ‘Friedman seemingly agrees with my long held take’. That’s quite the leap.

[Roof-Daddy]

Just because Buffalo effed up their rebuild(s) doesnt mean you shouldn't do it. They had some key pieces, just made some terrible moves and had some bad luck with Eichels injury, as well is mishandling his injury.

The Flames last rebuild failed because thye didn't lock up their core players long enough, didnt keep enough draft capital and didnt have enough bullets in the chamber to make up for bad luck like Fox being a ####ing loser and Monahan battling injuries. Treliving also couldn't hire a good coach to save his life.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A bit of a straw man by Drance. I haven’t heard anyone say SJ took forever. But he does ignore the actual failed Buffalo rebuilds when he talks about their periods of trying to win and sucking. Buffalo has tanked twice and it didn’t work for them, for various reasons. Toronto tanked and it’s about to fail.

Plus, the chances are that SJ doesn’t win a cup, despite what seems to be a good rebuild.

His timeline is interesting too. The rebuild apparently started in 2022 when they traded Burns. He says that it did not work in Buffalo because they did desperate to win stuff too early. The sharks did the following after Burns was traded in July 2022 that is definitely not desperate let’s try to win now stuff

July 2024 - sign Toffoli to a 4 year 6 million dollar a year deal
July 2024 - sign Wennberg yo a 2 year 5 million dollar a year deal
June 2024 - claim Goodrow off waivers to pick up the last 3 years of his deal at 3.64 million a year
October 2024 - trade a 3rd and a 6th for Liljegren.

Seems to me they did a lot of desperate win now moves in 2024. Have to see if it works out for them, the Sharks are not in a playoff spot right now.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Interesting that Friedman seemingly agrees with my long held take that andersson was worth more when resigning him wasnt part of the convo.

Also interesting that inexperience may have led to us getting less than warranted for hanifin.

Or it means no team offered that up.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Or it means no team offered that up.

Indeed, no team offerred it because it was too much for how andersson was playing in the 2nd half of last season. He might be playing better now but his contract status confounds his value quite a bit. It seems that the flames are potentially still asking for too much.

Be pedantic all you want, but Friedman is saying that his value has changed (probably negatively) since last season due to contract status.

Does rasmus have enough cache for a team to shell out or will they prefer cheaper options like Faulk? Same question applies to Kadri, and Montreal just showed us they prefer the latter.

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

His timeline is interesting too. The rebuild apparently started in 2022 when they traded Burns. He says that it did not work in Buffalo because they did desperate to win stuff too early. The sharks did the following after Burns was traded in July 2022 that is definitely not desperate let’s try to win now stuff

July 2024 - sign Toffoli to a 4 year 6 million dollar a year deal
July 2024 - sign Wennberg yo a 2 year 5 million dollar a year deal
June 2024 - claim Goodrow off waivers to pick up the last 3 years of his deal at 3.64 million a year
October 2024 - trade a 3rd and a 6th for Liljegren.

Seems to me they did a lot of desperate win now moves in 2024. Have to see if it works out for them, the Sharks are not in a playoff spot right now.

I took those moves as reaching the cap floor more than going for it

[iloveicedhockey]

Friedman didn't say that at all but congratulations on inferring your own correctness, and bringing it to everyone's attention.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Indeed, no team offerred it because it was too much for how andersson was playing in the 2nd half of last season. He might be playing better now but his contract status confounds his value quite a bit. It seems that the flames are potentially still asking for too much.

Be pedantic all you want, but Friedman is saying that his value has changed (probably negatively) since last season due to contract status.

Does rasmus have enough cache for a team to shell out or will they prefer cheaper options like Faulk? Same question applies to Kadri, and Montreal just showed us they prefer the latter.

It’s not pedantry when that is literally not what he says nor implies.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Indeed, no team offerred it because it was too much for how andersson was playing in the 2nd half of last season. He might be playing better now but his contract status confounds his value quite a bit. It seems that the flames are potentially still asking for too much.

Be pedantic all you want, but Friedman is saying that his value has changed (probably negatively) since last season due to contract status.

Does rasmus have enough cache for a team to shell out or will they prefer cheaper options like Faulk? Same question applies to Kadri, and Montreal just showed us they prefer the latter.

There’s way more nuance here than you’re acknowledging. A multitude of circumstances change every year for every team.

Take Dallas just as one example. They are in their contention widow, full stop. They have a weakness on their right side defense, this is clear. They also are faced with significant challenges within their own division. Why would they not be willing to pay as much or more than they were last year?

And how do we know that CC isn’t willing to take a first and a prospect for Anderson, or whatever ‘too much’ is? Maybe Dallas did offer that last season and maybe it was the Flames who said ‘no’. They were in playoff contention. We know this ownership group loathes to pass up that shot.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It’s not pedantry when that is literally not what he says nor implies.

Nothing quite like self congratulating yourself for something that wasn’t even said. Lol.

You know the saying ‘Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year’? Yeah, I made that up.