Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm not trying to back up any claim for his net worth number just justifying my comment that his fortune comes from his father/family. He's not some self made millionaire who amassed a bunch of money through hard work and dedication. He bummed around and pretended to work as a commoner because he was afforded that opportunity.



Sorry man, that was the best I could do between drinks from the beach. I just want to hang out a bit with my internet buddies back at home.

"With friends like this, who needs enemies" - Joey Adams

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Sorry man, that was the best I could do between drinks from the beach. I just want to hang out a bit with my internet buddies back at home.

I hope you get sand in your drink, actually not really I just lash out when cold.

[indes]

Originally Posted by Chump

The West Kootenays are actually a pretty left leaning area unlike most of the rest of the Interior. Rossland is situated in a NDP riding both federally and provincially.

The west kootenays usually end up NDP but its not by a lot. Its around a 60/40 split NDP/CPC iirc. One end of the spectrum or the other, not many Libs in the area.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I hope you get sand in your drink, actually not really I just lash out when cold.

I hope he has diarrhea in his swim trunks.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Then let’s strive at least for putting people with less corrupt and morally bankrupt personalities into positions of power than staying with the status quo. Trudeau and Poilivere should both go and bring in some leaders who are serious. If all is true, CPC will win the next elect easily. No need to stick with PP then. Find someone that everyone can get behind.

The CP ran that with O'Toole.

Liberal voters turned their nose up at home and voted Trudeau and his corruption back into office.

So please don't give me the 'well if there were a better leader we could vote for' stupidity.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I would actually be interested to see an objective breakdown of the pros and cons if Canada and the U.S. unified from both country's perspectives.

There are several different types of unions that stop short of annexation. For example, Scotland is unified with England in the United Kingdom, but they are not annexed by England and have their own parliament and law making abilities. Or the EU example as also pointed out where countries maintain their sovereignty buy unify on some policies.

I am not saying I would be in favour of a Canadian-American union, but I think the discussion is interesting anyway.

I don't understand why the US would want to do this.

Sure trade agreements and other things are nice, but the US benefits from the exchange rate. Maybe single handily the biggest benefit.

So why switch everything over to the USD and in the end pay more?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Yeah. We couldn't be a state because the votes we'd be entitled to would swing the electoral college hugely left. Multiple states would make it an even bigger swing.

But why would we ever agree to anything else? The vast majority of Canadians wouldn't want to join the US, there's no way people would accept joining as a territory without representation.

That just leaves them invading and taking over. Which I suppose is possible give the size of the military and instability of the commander in chief, but doesn't seem very interesting to discuss.

I just don't see how it benefits the US.

There is an argument to be made that Canada is leeching off the US when it comes to NATO & North American defense obligations, but that can be solved, and not sure how the US would benefit from suddenly being in charge and needing to now defend both Canada & the US.

Same argument can be made for border security. But it can also be easily solved by working together.

All our natural resources already go south.
Our power goes south.
Our manufacturing goes south.
The US would have to deal with our out of control health care costs and aging population, on top of their own mess.
And our housing market.

So I really do not see the benefit.

We're not going to sell our oil somewhere else. If anything if both countries worked together we could sell more natural resources to the US.

And they get a 20-30% discount on everything.

So what is the benefit?

I don't see it.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I hope he has diarrhea in his swim trunks.

I literally just got over that.

Was in Mexico Dec 1-10 and 2 days after being home it hit and hit hard.

It lasted a long time, including a business trip to Atlanta.

I can't wish that on anyone.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

The CP ran that with O'Toole.

Liberal voters turned their nose up at home and voted Trudeau and his corruption back into office.

So please don't give me the 'well if there were a better leader we could vote for' stupidity.

You keep ignoring the part where he flip flopped around on social issues, and was looking like he was going to let himself be rail-roaded by that wing of the party. That is when he rightfully lost Liberal voter support. Had he rejected those who feel Canadians don't deserve personal rights and freedoms, he may have got elected. Instead he made he same mistake these "big tent" people always make.



You need to not ignore reality when you try to make points.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm not trying to back up any claim for his net worth number just justifying my comment that his fortune comes from his father/family. He's not some self made millionaire who amassed a bunch of money through hard work and dedication. He bummed around and pretended to work as a commoner because he was afforded that opportunity.

Sorry man, that was the best I could do between drinks from the beach. I just want to hang out a bit with my internet buddies back at home.

Well ####, you are a few days ahead of me here. Good to know I can just dump unformated articles while on a beach, that's a nice tip.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I literally just got over that.

Was in Mexico Dec 1-10 and 2 days after being home it hit and hit hard.

It lasted a long time, including a business trip to Atlanta.

I can't wish that on anyone.

Bad water? Or do you know the cause?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

Bad water? Or do you know the cause?

No idea, it was a high end place so I thought I was good, didn't use tap water to even brush.

my wife and I ate the same and drank the same, she was fine.

really odd, but man when it hit it was ####ing awful and coupled with travel. I seriously considered going a doctor in Atlanta it was so bad.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Azure

The CP ran that with O'Toole.

Liberal voters turned their nose up at home and voted Trudeau and his corruption back into office.

So please don't give me the 'well if there were a better leader we could vote for' stupidity.

He lost the election because Bernier picked up his ball in 2019 and ran away to form his own party, which then took 5% in 2021. And because no one wanted to switch horses in a pandemic.

Plus, of course, the fact that voting CP is not exactly a vote against corruption.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You keep ignoring the part where he flip flopped around on social issues, and was looking like he was going to let himself be rail-roaded by that wing of the party. That is when he rightfully lost Liberal voter support. Had he rejected those who feel Canadians don't deserve personal rights and freedoms, he may have got elected. Instead he made he same mistake these "big tent" people always make.



You need to not ignore reality when you try to make points.

Big ask.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

calgarygeologist deserves a 24 hour ban for such a poorly formatted copy/paste.

And undercoverbro for quoting the entire damn thing. Post snippets of something you link

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

He lost the election because Bernier picked up his ball in 2019 and ran away to form his own party, which then took 5% in 2021. And because no one wanted to switch horses in a pandemic.

Plus, of course, the fact that voting CP is not exactly a vote against corruption.

Even his own party had this to say about him:

"Mr. O'Toole flip-flopped on policies core to our party within the same week, the same day, and even within the same sentence. The members didn't have a say on that, but we must have one on his leadership," Batters said in a statement announcing the petition.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/con...tion-1.6251532


Blaming O'Toole's loss on Liberal voters and wondering it they regret it because now we have a giant ####ing PP is some pretty hilarious stuff, but about what you can expect form uneducated Conservatives who get their talking points in sound bites.


Speaking of which, no one talking about PP's big holiday video? I heard about 30 seconds of it on the radio, enough to catch one massive blatant lie. Good stuff, Millhouse.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by BigThief

And undercoverbro for quoting the entire damn thing. Post snippets of something you link

meh

[KootenayFlamesFan]

nm

[1qqaaz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1874870689897082945

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

https://twitter.com/user/status/1874870689897082945

That was a good clip for sure! Although I have never liked him or his policies, the people who put those slogans on their cars and trucks are dumb. People can't stand the man but then proceed to put his name on an expensive vehicle.

Wild!