Breaking Bad

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Max Cow Disease

It seemed obvious to me that Hank must have been tracing Walt's phone in some way or another, given Walt's instinctual "holy hell, rip out the battery" shtick when he gets out of his car (not to mention the whole "stay on the phone, otherwise I'll burn your money" spiel).

Well I know that's what they're trying to make him believe, but Hank's been lying to everyone about what he knows and what he's done so far in this investigation, as he's not supposed to be on it, and no one in the DEA knows he's on it. It's basically an illegal investigation. I just woulda thought they woulda told the audience about it somehow if they were really doing it.

Gomez: We can't put a trace on Walt's phone Hank, that requires a warrant. And that'll tip you off to the DEA:

Hank: Relax Gomey, we won't file the warrant. I can still get my buddy in surveillance to set it up for two six packs of Shratterbrau

[Huntingwhale]

Yes, the episode was kind of predictable. But I can't believe some people are actually thinking they are going to be let down by the finale. I've never trusted a show as much as Br Ba to entertain me, humor me, and stress me out as much as this show does. My only regret is that I'm leaving for vacation on friday and am going to miss out on the remainder of the show. Thankfully I booked an extra day off work so when I get back I can watch the last 3 episodes all in a row.

I totally also hope Todd bangs Lydia. He's earned it. Thought for sure he was gonna make a move...

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[Red Slinger]

I don't understand why Hank proclaimed that "he got him" after cuffing Walt. He didn't have a warrant for anything he had done. Even if they recorded the phone call, recovered the money, etc. it would have all been thrown out in court. So was Hank actually going to arrest Walt? I can't imagine he'd kill him, especially with Gomi involved. Hank is smarter than that.

[trackercowe]

^ Hank killing Walt? The hell you say; dunno why you'd even think of that.

[polak]

Maybe it's assumed Hank let everyone know the deal when he got Gomi involved and has since been following up with warrants and such...?

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

I don't understand why Hank proclaimed that "he got him" after cuffing Walt. He didn't have a warrant for anything he had done. Even if they recorded the phone call, recovered the money, etc. it would have all been thrown out in court. So was Hank actually going to arrest Walt? I can't imagine he'd kill him, especially with Gomi involved. Hank is smarter than that.

New Mexico is a one party consent state, so they only need permission of one person in a phone call to record it, and since Jesse consented they don't need a warrant.

Edit: And federally you only need one party consent if the conversation is for criminal purposes.

[Red Slinger]

I'm just saying that Hank knew that he couldn't arrest Walt since he had no legally gathered evidence. Walt would have walked out jail as soon as Saul showed up. Hank must have been well aware of this so what was his plan, what exactly was he planning to do with Walt? I can't imagine he'd be okay with Walt just walking away at this stage. I'm not suggesting he was going to kill him, I just have no idea what his plan was.

edit- DownInFlames clarified. Out of thanks so thanks.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

I don't understand why Hank proclaimed that "he got him" after cuffing Walt. He didn't have a warrant for anything he had done. Even if they recorded the phone call, recovered the money, etc. it would have all been thrown out in court. So was Hank actually going to arrest Walt? I can't imagine he'd kill him, especially with Gomi involved. Hank is smarter than that.

I think Hank's obsession with Heinsenberg and the realization that it was Walt has affected his thinking but I don't know if all evidence is inadmissible. New Mexico is a one party consent state and since Jesse knew the phone call was being recorded is that enough? And if it is and the phone call is admissible, Walt confessed to murders so there's that. Sure it's not a black and white case, far from it, and could even cost Hank his job for going off the book but I think it was a moral victory. Even if nothing stuck, Heisenberg was unmasked. Might not spend a day in prison but he has to answer to Walter Jr.

The couple dozen million dollars worth of barrels they would have recovered would have been icing on the cake as there's no way Walt would have seen that money again.

[Radio]

I am sure Hank knows the law. He had Jesse where a wire to the plaza but Jesse got spooked and came up with a better plan to get Walt to confess, come alone, and get his money.

Seemed to work like a charm as far as I could tell...until the neo-Nazis couldn't follow instructions.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Radio

I am sure Hank knows the law. He had Jesse where a wire to the plaza but Jesse got spooked and came up with a better plan to get Walt to confess, come alone, and get his money.

Seemed to work like a charm as far as I could tell...until the neo-Nazis couldn't follow instructions.

That's the thing, I am not so sure that Walt didn't call them back, at least to maybe get him out of there, not start a gunfight.

Why else would they come out after Walt told them not to bother? It's not like they couldn't grab Walt whenever they wanted and assassinate Jesse another time.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Wormius

That's the thing, I am not so sure that Walt didn't call them back, at least to maybe get him out of there, not start a gunfight.

Why else would they come out after Walt told them not to bother? It's not like they couldn't grab Walt whenever they wanted and assassinate Jesse another time.

Because Walt is their meal ticket and they figured he was in trouble. I would have been surprised if they didn't come given Walt's phone call. For all they knew, Jesse was pointing a gun at Walt and telling him to call it off.

I thought it would have been cooler though if Walt never called it off and instead, stalled Hank and Gomez long enough for Todd's gang to get there. Would have been much more fitting of Heisenberg to do something like that. Would have loved to see Hank, thinking that he outsmarted Walt, only to realize that Walt trapped him in the end. Oh well. I think the writers have been attempting to recapture Walt's humanity this season, which kind of goes against this whole evolution into Scareface. Interesting non-the-less.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Just got a press release that Sony and AMC reached a licensing agreement for the Saul Goodman prequel spin off series.

[sun]

Ugh. Why can't They leave well enough alone? Do we really need sequels, prequels, spinoffs of everything?

[normtwofinger]

Originally Posted by Wormius

That's the thing, I am not so sure that Walt didn't call them back, at least to maybe get him out of there, not start a gunfight.

Why else would they come out after Walt told them not to bother? It's not like they couldn't grab Walt whenever they wanted and assassinate Jesse another time.

Walt seemed pretty shocked when the neo nazis showed up. So I doubt he called them back. They probably came anyways to protect him so he can cook for them.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by normtwofinger

Walt seemed pretty shocked when the neo nazis showed up. So I doubt he called them back. They probably came anyways to protect him so he can cook for them.

Yeah, but he didn't say that on the phone.. Kind of came across as "ah, nevermind..."

I just thought it was a ploy to help him escape that escalated out of Walt's control. I couldn't see Walt just surrendering like that once he realized he was cornered.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by sun

Ugh. Why can't They leave well enough alone? Do we really need sequels, prequels, spinoffs of everything?

I'd rather they do this than what most shows do and go on perpetually until the main show is a disaster.

[MrMastodonFarm]

[Acey]

It's frighteningly effective if you read it in Michael C. Hall's voice.

[Daradon]

Yeah, the Nazi's definitely came back to protect their 'investment' and get Walt to teach Todd. They made the decision to do it after Walt told them not to.

They will probably use the play to force Walt to do more than he wants to.

'We saved you white bro!'
'But I didn't want that! I didn't want you to kill Hank!'
'Well, that's were we are, start cooking biatch!'

It may also be possible they figured out the money is around there. There are a few hints, don't have to know what Hank or Jesse does to make a good guess. They're jerks, but they're not dumb. Also Jesse is there. Who knows who he'll tell what.

[ranchlandsselling]

Well... I enjoyed the episode, thought it was great, Walt got his ass handed to him but there were some rolling eyes events regarding the shoot out. One in particular was:

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Please raise your hand if you got blown away with one shot by a handgun held by Todd from a distance