WCR1: Edmonton Oilers (P3) vs Los Angeles Kings (P2) - Oilers win 4-2

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

This.

Doesn't.

Matter.

When will people read the damn rule? If you are in the crease, and you make contact with the goalie inside the crease, and a goal is then scored, the goal is disallowed. The only circumstance where that isn't true is if you're forced into the crease. Not guided in, forced in, as in you're clearly pushed or hit in that direction.

I guess maybe they must have determined that was the case because Kopitar is right there with Kane and is shoving him, but usually it requires more.

Maybe I’m missing something, I am trying to copy and paste the rule without typing it all, but 38.11(iii) doesnt mention contact with the goalie. And (iii) is an “or”. https://media.nhl.com/site/asset/pub...24-25Rules.pdf

Typed it out:

OR, 38.11(iii). The attacking players positioning within the crease did not impair the goaltenders ability to defend his goal and, in fact, had no discernible impact on the play

[EDMONTONisNG]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Yes, the league is definitely gonna help a small market Canadian team over the second biggest market in the US lol. There's so much to criticize and make fun of the Oilers for and every year for some reason people actually think the League plays favorites.

Yes, the league is rigged. Mcavi has Bettman by the balls and can make demands. It's not a coincidence the oilers are gifted the most timely power plays to get back into games. It's a hyperbole to believe Connor has Bettman on speed dial but Bettman does put Edmonton at the top of the list.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Can you please share a link or post the actual rule? Would love to read it and can't search for it atm.

Originally Posted by Rule 69 – Interference on the Goalkeeper

69.3 Contact Inside the Goal Crease - If an attacking player initiates
contact with a goalkeeper, incidental or otherwise, while the
goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be
disallowed (refer to Rule 69.7 for an exception).

If a goalkeeper, in the act of establishing his position within his
goal crease, initiates contact with an attacking player who is in the
goal crease, and this results in an impairment of the goalkeeper’s
ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be
disallowed.

If, after any contact by a goalkeeper who is attempting to establish
position in his goal crease, the attacking player does not immediately
vacate his current position in the goal crease (i.e. give ground to the
goalkeeper), and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed. In all
such cases, whether or not a goal is scored, the attacking player will
receive a minor penalty for goalkeeper interference.

If an attacking player establishes a significant position within the
goal crease, so as to obstruct the goalkeeper’s vision and impair his
ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be
disallowed.

For this purpose, a player “establishes a significant position within
the crease” when, in the Referee’s judgment, his body, or a
substantial portion thereof, is within the goal crease for more than an
instantaneous period of time.

They even have a table that says the same thing in fewer words about 50 pages later in the rulebook. If you initiate contact with a goalie in the crease, unless you're shoved in and you made a reasonable effort to avoid contact with the goalie, or both you and the goalie are trying to play a loose puck in the crease, the result is "goal is disallowed".

[Groot]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Yes, the league is definitely gonna help a small market Canadian team over the second biggest market in the US lol. There's so much to criticize and make fun of the Oilers for and every year for some reason people actually think the League plays favorites.

This small market Canadian team that was 1st in the NHL last year with $379M in revenue? Driven largely by a long playoff run? I'm sure the NHL would hate to see that again.

[Saqe]

Ugly road game from the Kings. Was expected. Now Edmonton has much more mometum for the next game.

[Enoch Root]

The Kings are up 2 games to 1, and have been the better team in 7 of the 9 periods so far, but some of you babies are conceding the Cup to the Oilers already.

Yes, the Oilers have had a couple good 3rds, but in case you haven't noticed before, when teams are behind, they tend to push hard in the 3rd, and the reffing is usually helping them.

For me, this Kings team is very different than the prior 3 years, especially last year, where they played scared and were outclassed. This Kings team believes they can and will win, and has been the better team.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Ugly road game from the Kings. Was expected. Now Edmonton has much more mometum for the next game.

Ugly road game? They were up 4-3 in the middle of the 3rd to a desperate team. Fluky goal and an ill advised challenge - that's what lost it last night. Sure as hell wasn't an ugly road game.

[Roof-Daddy]

I have zero faith in the kings. Getting sucked into beer league pond hockey style vs the oilers is not a smart game plan. Hopefully they buckle down and get a win in game 4 because then theyll have 2 shots to win it at home, but the way the friggin oilers wouldn't go away and die last year until game 7 of the finals is still seared into my brain.

[troutman]

The Oilers are without their best d-man, their goalies are a disaster. The Kings got this.

[PepsiFree]

I get that fellow Flames fans have PTSD from the series the Flames played against the Oilers but some of y’all sound like Oiler fans in the way you’re conceding the series to them.

Kings are up 2-1 and have outplayed the Oilers for the vast majority of the series so far. They’re far better at home and the Oilers don’t even have as good a team as they had last year, if you want to call that team good. Nothing to worry about.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

They even have a table that says the same thing in fewer words about 50 pages later in the rulebook. If you initiate contact with a goalie in the crease, unless you're shoved in and you made a reasonable effort to avoid contact with the goalie, or both you and the goalie are trying to play a loose puck in the crease, the result is "goal is disallowed".

It clearly says in the part you quoted impairing the goalies ability to defend his goal is one of the criteria. It says it twice in fact.

Kane did none of that. It was a good goal and a bad challenge.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I get that fellow Flames fans have PTSD from the series the Flames played against the Oilers but some of y’all sound like Oiler fans in the way you’re conceding the series to them.

Kings are up 2-1 and have outplayed the Oilers for the vast majority of the series so far. They’re far better at home and the Oilers don’t even have as good a team as they had last year, if you want to call that team good. Nothing to worry about.

Of course I hope you're right, but people said the same things every round a year ago too. And when the Panthers went up 3-0 in the finals I thought it was over too, but the pieces of crap still agonizingly forced a game 7 and made us all sweat to the end. I'll believe it's over when it's actually over, and the sooner the better.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

It clearly says in the part you quoted impairing the goalies ability to defend his goal is one of the criteria. It says it twice in fact.

Kane did none of that. It was a good goal and a bad challenge.

I disagree. Kane swiped his stick at the puck, but missed it, and hit Kuemper in the pad, pushing Kuemper back and causing him to be in a weakened position to hold firm on the goal line. Then Kane swiped the puck and it went under Kuemper because he was now prone.

I totally get why they challenged, because, compared to many recent calls we've seen (like the Flames a couple weeks ago), Kane caused more interference than some other plays that were waived off. However, it was a terrible decision to challenge, regardless, because you never know which way the hand of NHL justice is going to go, and in a tie game on the road with 10 minutes left, the risk/reward is not there.

Bu there was definitely some impairment of the goalie's ability to defend.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Kings are up 2 games to 1, and have been the better team in 7 of the 9 periods so far, but some of you babies are conceding the Cup to the Oilers already.

Yes, the Oilers have had a couple good 3rds, but in case you haven't noticed before, when teams are behind, they tend to push hard in the 3rd, and the reffing is usually helping them.

For me, this Kings team is very different than the prior 3 years, especially last year, where they played scared and were outclassed. This Kings team believes they can and will win, and has been the better team.

What exactly about the Kings gives you the confidence to puff out your chest and call people babies for thinking the Oilers can easily come back and win the series? Can't be their inability to hold a lead in the 3rd period. Can't be Kuemper's 4.04 GAA and .839 SV% which is by far worst of goaltenders to start every game for their team in the playoffs.

Now we all knew that going into the series that the Oilers goaltending and defense was suspect but those were never considered team strengths. However they have two of the best forwards in the world that can single handedly take over games. The Kings conversely depend on team defense and goaltending to win and they have been poor at both which plays into the hands of the Oilers. Considering neither team has lost a home game yet, I fail to understand why anyone would think this outcome of this sereies isn't contentious at best.

[Enoch Root]

Contentious, sure. They all are.

Some people are crying that it's over, and that the Kings suck, etc. Just whining.

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by EDMONTONisNG

Yes, the league is rigged. Mcavi has Bettman by the balls and can make demands. It's not a coincidence the oilers are gifted the most timely power plays to get back into games. It's a hyperbole to believe Connor has Bettman on speed dial but Bettman does put Edmonton at the top of the list.

Kings have 5 more powerplays so far.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Kings have 5 more powerplays so far.

He is an oilers fan, just trying to troll.

[dino7c]

Most of us said Kings in 5 or 6...a sweep was unlikely. They are still the better team and have home ice.

Even the Wild, Blues, and Habs won a game...sweeping ain't easy

[direwolf]

I said before this series started that the Oilers would likely McPP their way to at least 2 wins. This Kings team has what it takes to beat these losers, and they have a lot more depth. I still predict they'll win the series in 6.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

It clearly says in the part you quoted impairing the goalies ability to defend his goal is one of the criteria. It says it twice in fact.

Kane did none of that. It was a good goal and a bad challenge.

Yeah I copied the coaches challenge criteria above (for this play), and it doesn’t mention contact.