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Old 11-04-2020, 07:11 AM   #1641
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Biden pulls ahead in Michigan!!!!
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:12 AM   #1642
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At 69.3M total votes, is that the most ever for a candidate?
Close. Barack had 69.5
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How do you see him getting to 280?
Nevada, Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin.
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Disagree.

The division within this country is different than it is to the South, but its just as vast.

Not going to derail this thread with that opinion, but its a real thing.
For me, at the 10,000 ft level, Canadian political division is geographical, but that geography drives the primary industry of each region. American political division seems very urban vs. rural. Most (if not all, I didn't look) of the major American cities are blue
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230k people dead and a completely fractured country after 4 years of trump presidency. I just can’t believe it’s even this close.
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At 69.3M total votes, is that the most ever for a candidate?
By a large margin.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:14 AM   #1647
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Man, imagine the vote totals in a Trump vs Obama election...
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:14 AM   #1648
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I'm not shocked it's a close as it is.
All the trump fans vote for him, and then all the republicans that would rather die than vote for a democrat.
This election just highlights the divisions in america we've all seen.

I don't know why I had let myself believe even a little bit that Biden might get a clear cut victory.
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Nevada, Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin.
That’s 270
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230k people dead and a completely fractured country after 4 years of trump presidency. I just can’t believe it’s even this close.
Yeah it’s because (obvious statement alert) Americans have become so individual they literally don’t care about each other. So, none of that stuff matters.
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WI, MI, AR and NV together give him 270

none of those are certain, but they are all probable
That's the only path I see for him. 75% votes are in for PA according to some major news outlets, with Trump having a 600K lead.

Going to be a close call.

CBS news now saying Trump has a small lead in MI now.
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230k people dead and a completely fractured country after 4 years of trump presidency. I just can’t believe it’s even this close.
Too many bible thumping wing nuts who can't even see who is responsible for pandemic deaths let alone destroying the foundations and institutions of their country.

Senate races don't look good for the Democrats so how is Biden even going to enact any real change should he win. For what matter how will any investigation into Trump even work if McConnell continues to block any reform or prosecution?
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That’s 270
Thats what i meant. Typo.

Though it could still be more as it looks like Georgia could go to him as well with what's left to be counted.
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My worry with a 270-268 election are the faithless electors. One faithless Biden elector and this thing ends up in the House of Representatives (for President) and Senate (for VP).

Have any of the states in the house flipped?
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:20 AM   #1655
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Yeah, I don’t know that I’d use the word “divided.” Divided infers that some kind of choice is involved. Red states are just red states, I don’t think it matters who’s running.
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I'm not shocked it's a close as it is.
All the trump fans vote for him, and then all the republicans that would rather die than vote for a democrat.
This election just highlights the divisions in america we've all seen.

I don't know why I had let myself believe even a little bit that Biden might get a clear cut victory.
Biden might still get a clear cut victory. The mail in ballots coming late really affects perception here. He might win Georgia and Arizona which democrats haven’t won since Clinton. He will win the popular vote by 5-6 points.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:21 AM   #1657
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He is ahead in WI and MI. With NV and AZ he doesn’t need GA and PN.

He will win today.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:22 AM   #1658
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Biden now leads by 12,000 in Michigan and 21,000 in Wisconsin.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:22 AM   #1659
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My worry with a 270-268 election are the faithless electors. One faithless Biden elector and this thing ends up in the House of Representatives (for President) and Senate (for VP).

Have any of the states in the house flipped?
Bloomberg has the House at 189-182 Dem, with the Senate tied at 47 if that means anything.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:25 AM   #1660
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230k people dead and a completely fractured country after 4 years of trump presidency. I just can’t believe it’s even this close.
That's what happens when you have a ####ty 2 party "democracy" system. Pick your favorite team and stick with them for life. Screw the other side because YOUR side is always right 100% of the time and can do no wrong.

Disappointing it hasn't been more of a blowout, but not at all surprising.
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