06-09-2015, 08:43 PM
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#1641
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Guryanov looks like he can beat everyone one on one. Might be a risky pick @ 15 but the world will not end if they decide to grab a top tier talent.
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watch a little video on this kid and you wonder how he possibly lasts longer than the 10th pick. I think his talent is too enticing for teams to keep passing on him. The Oilers are getting a can't miss prospect at number 1, if they were smart he would be their guy at 16.
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06-09-2015, 11:37 PM
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#1642
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Lifetime Suspension
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Guryanov is going to be an amazing hockey player. Kid should be picked in top 10.
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06-10-2015, 12:00 AM
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#1643
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Cool to see a different perspective. They have Connor at 5th!
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06-10-2015, 03:20 AM
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#1644
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First Line Centre
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I just don't see any offensive upside with Eriksson-Ek. Do we really need to draft another C, especially one who projects to be a defensive specialist?
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06-10-2015, 07:34 AM
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#1645
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by FlameZilla
I just don't see any offensive upside with Eriksson-Ek. Do we really need to draft another C, especially one who projects to be a defensive specialist?
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He's not so much a defensive specialist as a two way C. Has offensive ability but struggled against men which is to be expected at that age. Performed better against kids his age.
I like his frame and will be better once he's filled out. Could do a lot worse than him in this draft.
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06-10-2015, 07:46 AM
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#1646
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Franchise Player
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Put me on Guryanov bandwagon. High risk high reward, even if he fails we have Joe Nieuwendyk waiting in the wings.
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06-10-2015, 11:09 AM
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#1647
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Five-hole
Yeah, Norris trophy winning and perennial Norris candidate defencemen have no place on this team.
If you think Kylington has a good chance of being EK, you take him. He also has a good shot of being Andy Delmore.
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I don't like Karlsson's game, and much prefer Brodie to him when it comes to skating defencemen. Brodie actually plays defence, not rover. But that's me.
And, yes, you still have to have a well-rounded defence, and where you have Giordano, Brodie and Russell all being smallish skating defencemen (and Wideman not being a defensive guy either) I'm looking for defencemen who are more Reggie-like. There's nothing like that in the system.
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06-10-2015, 11:57 AM
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#1648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Sabres.com write up on Svechnikov. I'm so sold on this player to be the Flames pick @ 15.
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A massive forward with a pro-ready offensive arsenal, Svechnikov scored 32 times in 2014-15 to set a Cape Breton franchise record for most goals in a season by a rookie.
The Russian import exhibited a compelling blend of power and skill, validating his stock as a second-tier commodity that a team will scoop up to fortify their top-line wing depth.
Virtually every individual tool you can ask for is present in the 18-year-old offensive package. He has a long, strong skating stride. He displays top-notch puck control that allows him to stickhandle his way through defenders. His shot is quick and accurate.
He thinks the game well enough to beat defenders in a variety of ways, but it’s his speedy net drives and finishing ability that have people talking.
Following a season that saw him appear in three games in KHL, Svechnikov was an immediate difference maker for the Screaming Eagles, dominating the preseason skates and posting points in his first nine regular-season games.
The adjustment to the smaller North American rinks happened rather quickly, with Svechnikov handling the physical style well and adding a solid forechecking element into his game.
The train kept rolling to the very end, with the off-wing sniper scoring 13 goals in the final 16 contests. Along the way, he posted a season-high five points (1+4) in a March contest at Saint John.
Svechnikov is well-liked by his teammates and coaches due to his passion for the game and dedication to the team. He has a reputation as a hard worker in the gym as well, setting the stage for a successful professional career in North America.
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06-10-2015, 12:02 PM
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#1649
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Franchise Player
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Yeah that Svechnikov is an ogre. Just wish he was a rightie.
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06-10-2015, 12:06 PM
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#1650
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by nik-
Yeah that Svechnikov is an ogre. Just wish he was a rightie.
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Out of the Righties potentially available at 15, Colin White would be my choice. But I really feel you can steal some good/great RH players in the 2nd.
But Svechnikov plays RW, LW and C. Adding the Versatility aspect to his draft profile only strengthens his stock.
I feel like I'm setting myself up for massive disappointment when he gets picked higher than 15.
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06-10-2015, 12:08 PM
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#1651
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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If we went on handedness alone, I'd like Merkley/Konecny.
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06-10-2015, 12:09 PM
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#1652
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Thought it was interesting that Svechnikov wasn't interviewed by the Bruins at the draft, though they did interview Crouse, Rantanen, and Meier.
Wonder what they don't like about him.
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06-10-2015, 12:10 PM
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#1653
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Out of the Righties potentially available at 15, Colin White would be my choice. But I really feel you can steal some good/great RH players in the 2nd.
But Svechnikov plays RW, LW and C. Adding the Versatility aspect to his draft profile only strengthens his stock.
I feel like I'm setting myself up for massive disappointment when he gets picked higher than 15.
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I saw Svechnikov play in a game in Charlottetown in which he lined up at all 3 forward positions at different times in the same game. He scored a couple of goals and got a couple of assists. I was sold on him. He just seems to know where to go on the ice and what to do with the puck. I love players with a high hockey IQ.
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06-10-2015, 12:13 PM
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#1654
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
If we went on handedness alone, I'd like Merkley/Konecny.
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Konecny yeah for sure but White has the size, still not sold on Merkley not that it matters much in the grand scheme of things.
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06-10-2015, 12:13 PM
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#1655
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Here
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Some interesting stuff on the Swedish prospects on FlamesNation. Definitely would like the Flames to stay away from Kylington after reading this
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Oliver Kylington was supposed to be that elite talent this year, and everyone agreed at the beginning of the year, but he has plummeted down draft boards, universally. Why is that? How do you view Kylington?
J: Kylington has had a rough year. Last year he made his debut in SHL and made some real noise after becoming the youngest scorer in SHL history. As he was only sixteen, he was given a lot of slack for his mistakes, and there were a lot. But going into this year the stakes were raised and he was suppose to build on last years performance. Unfortunately he couldn't and i think that lead to a lot of stress and pressure that he couldn't handle.
My view of Kylington is that he is a fantastic skater - brilliant, in fact - but I don't see him having a basic understanding of the game or the vision that will take him to the next level. Perhaps it's just a phase, but I don't see him becoming the defender a lot of others see. As to the drop I think some of the scouts have picked up on it. The ones that still thinks his a top prospect are the ones who've not seen him enough.
Add to that a reputation of being difficult to deal with and you have a perfect storm to drag you down the draft lists.
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http://flamesnation.ca/2015/6/10/nhl...-series-sweden
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06-10-2015, 12:25 PM
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#1656
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Franchise Player
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I just don't see how the Flames draft somebody with the apparent attitudes of Kylington or Sprong.
I think you'd be pretty safe to cross them off our potential draft list.
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06-10-2015, 07:24 PM
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#1657
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
I just don't see how the Flames draft somebody with the apparent attitudes of Kylington or Sprong.
I think you'd be pretty safe to cross them off our potential draft list.
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I have been one of the most vocal supporters of those two, but I have always said that if their issues were overblown would be the only reason to take them. It is becoming more and more apparent that those issues are probably not overblown, so yeah, I'd pass on them as well.
It isn't like there is absolutely nobody else at 15 worth taking. Assuming the typical top 12 + Connor are gone at 15, then you still have Svechnikov, Zboril, Chabot, Konecky, Boeser, and a few others that would be decent picks. Nothing to complain about.
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06-10-2015, 08:47 PM
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#1658
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Scoring Winger
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@Ro - Your last sentence mentioned the Rockets. Can I assume that your insight comes from someone in Kelowna? If so, would you have heard anything about (local YYC kid) Joey Gatenby? I've heard that he's projected to be a late rounder, if drafted at all. Thanks.
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06-10-2015, 09:09 PM
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#1659
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: YYC
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My one question for people who have been high on this guy for a while.
Does Svechnikov has an egotistic attitude like Yakapov/Young Ovechkin or is he a quiet leader Tarasenko/Malkin type?
Like Provorov, I know is a very well spoken and smart player. Would Svechnikov be a head case or is he a safe pick?
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06-10-2015, 09:12 PM
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#1660
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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I'm pretty sure Svechnikov is a safe pick. Learned the English language (probably still working on it), plays in the CHL and intends to play in the NHL one day. I think if we picked him, he wouldn't run off.
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