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metallicat · 10-12-2015, 07:23 AM

What are the latest legit polls telling us right now as far as Republicans go?

Caged Great · 10-12-2015, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

What are the latest legit polls telling us right now as far as Republicans go?

Trump and Carson are blowing away the rest of the field.

ernie · 10-12-2015, 08:36 AM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-3823.html

Trump around the 25% market. Carson 20%. Cruz, Bush, Rubio and Fiorina the 5-10% mark.

It's a remarkably bad set of candidates. Hopefully the GOP continues to implode with fighting. Every day it seems there is a center republican speaking out against his party right now.

metallicat · 10-12-2015, 10:43 AM

I wonder where someone as polarizing as W Bush would sit in the polls if he could run again.

Vulcan · 10-12-2015, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ernie

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tion-3823.html

Trump around the 25% market. Carson 20%. Cruz, Bush, Rubio and Fiorina the 5-10% mark.

It's a remarkably bad set of candidates. Hopefully the GOP continues to implode with fighting. Every day it seems there is a center republican speaking out against his party right now.

I just don't get this Carson guy. He seems to know nothing about politics and suffers from foot in mouth disease.

Flash Walken · 10-12-2015, 01:49 PM

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I just don't get this Carson guy. He seems to know nothing about politics and suffers from foot in mouth disease.

you mean he's a "Washington outsider" with the courage speak openly without being 'politically correct'?

photon · 10-12-2015, 02:53 PM

Ben Civil-Rights-Are-Different-Than-Gay-Rights-Because-Many-Go-To-Prison-Straight-And-Come-Out-Gay-Therefore-Gay-Is-A-Choice Carson speaks his mind, but not sure if it is courage or pandering to the lowest common denominator.

troutman · 10-12-2015, 05:00 PM

Snl’s michael che on ben carson: ‘please, america, pick anybody but the black guy’

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/...the-black-guy/

ernie · 10-13-2015, 07:34 AM

Carson is an even bigger comedy goldmine than Trump.

You have his defense of vaccinations because the science says so and then he denies climate change.

His gay is a choice because people go to prison straight and come out gay.

His comments that he would get everyone to rush the shooter and his story that he has had a gun pulled on him in a Popeye's. His response? "I think you want the guy at the counter".

And to top it off he is sooooo damn boring. It's awesome.

DuffMan · 10-13-2015, 08:04 AM

Ben Carson is nuts

In a “Faith & Liberty” interview posted last week, potential GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson discussed his rejection of the theory of evolution, arguing that the science of evolution is a sign of humankind’s arrogance and belief “that they are so smart that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen, which of course means that they’re God. You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.”

He claimed that “no one has the knowledge” of the age of the earth “based on the Bible,” adding that “carbon dating and all of these things really don’t mean anything to a God who has the ability to create anything at any point in time.”

Carson pointed to the “complexity of the human brain” as proof that evolution is a myth: “Somebody says that came from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals? I don’t think so.”

He said evolution is unable to explain the development of an eyeball: “Give me a break. According to their scheme, it had to occur over night, it had to be there. I instead say, if you have an intelligent creator, what he does is give his creatures the ability to adapt to the environment so he doesn’t have to start over every fifty years creating all over again.”

Carson also said he hopes God will intervene to expose the truth about Obamacare.

Arguing that Obamacare will lead people to lose their health coverage — even though the opposite is happening — Carson said he has “prayed to God that he will expose even to people of low information what is going on. Sometimes things have to be so blatant, it’s like hitting them over the head with a two-by-four, before people wake up.”

Looch City · 10-13-2015, 08:23 AM

People like him should be rounded up and not allowed to procreate.

That's just downright ridiculous.

Language · 10-13-2015, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DuffMan

Ben Carson is nuts

In a “Faith & Liberty” interview posted last week, potential GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson discussed his rejection of the theory of evolution, arguing that the science of evolution is a sign of humankind’s arrogance and belief “that they are so smart that if they can’t explain how God did something, then it didn’t happen, which of course means that they’re God. You don’t need a God if you consider yourself capable of explaining everything.”

He claimed that “no one has the knowledge” of the age of the earth “based on the Bible,” adding that “carbon dating and all of these things really don’t mean anything to a God who has the ability to create anything at any point in time.”

Carson pointed to the “complexity of the human brain” as proof that evolution is a myth: “Somebody says that came from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals? I don’t think so.”

He said evolution is unable to explain the development of an eyeball: “Give me a break. According to their scheme, it had to occur over night, it had to be there. I instead say, if you have an intelligent creator, what he does is give his creatures the ability to adapt to the environment so he doesn’t have to start over every fifty years creating all over again.”

Carson also said he hopes God will intervene to expose the truth about Obamacare.

Arguing that Obamacare will lead people to lose their health coverage — even though the opposite is happening — Carson said he has “prayed to God that he will expose even to people of low information what is going on. Sometimes things have to be so blatant, it’s like hitting them over the head with a two-by-four, before people wake up.”

It's a good thing I'm not that invested in U.S. politics, because I feel my IQ would drop to insufficient levels fit for survival if I were to listen to people like this continuously speaking.

DuffMan · 10-13-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Language

It's a good thing I'm not that invested in U.S. politics, because I feel my IQ would drop to insufficient levels fit for survival if I were to listen to people like this continuously speaking.

It's like reality TV, I guess. US politics is super crazy, super fun stuff.
There's days I wished Canadian politics wasn't so boring, to make it more interesting, but then I think about it again, and I'm happy, it's not.

SportsJunky · 10-13-2015, 09:00 AM

I listened to an interesting discussion on Insight radio last week about Ben Carson. One of the hosts suggested that Carson exhibits traits of someone who would show up on the Autism spectrum. She feels he falls on the Asperger's side but on the spectrum nonetheless. She further went on to say that his handlers are not the mismanaging buffoons that they may appear to be when he gets caught saying stupid things but instead they have their hands full keeping him from going even further out there with his theories. There is definitely a 'vacant' quality to him that I at one time mistook for 'laid-back'. I'm not sure that's the case with him. It's possible that he's fighting a battle within himself to not go too far over the line and expose himself. He may be a savant but I'm not sure we want a savant in the White House.

...or he may just be a crazy person.

CaptainCrunch · 10-13-2015, 09:07 AM

I've kind of walked away from the American Election, its just not funny anymore. The lack of leadership choices in their election is stunning to say the least

Trump - Ok, at first it was funny and refreshing, but he doesn't have much to offer except for vague promises, rhetoric and speeches that sounds suspiciously like something that my angry dad would do.

Ben Carson - Seemed ok, but then went absolutely nuts on his personal belief.

Mark Rubio - Where has he gone? less then 10% at the polls,

Jeb Bush - The parties great last hope to dethrone Trump, but he's vanished, he's slimy and he's pandering to the far right

Fiorino - I think she's a reptillian, at first I liked her in the underdog kind of way, but she's got a bad track record in terms of driving HP into the ground.

Then the other side

Clinton - I think the key word is that she's not trustworthy. I watched a speech today where she was pandering hard to the unions and talking about income distribution, and doubling the minimum wage. I really lost my temper with her when she appeared on SNL was unfunny and then basically gloated about her hypocritical stance on the Keystone pipeline. She's not a friend of my country.

Bernie Sanders - He's your crazy grandpa, I'm amazed that he got this far, but his Christopher Lloyd look and his far left policies will kill him in the polls.

Others - There are? Really?

Joe Biden - Is he going to run? I don't really think much of this VP and he will basically be shotgunned in not to be a president but to protect Obama's policies and be a caretaker president until the next election.

This is one of the worst fields of politicians that I've ever seen.

DuffMan · 10-13-2015, 09:12 AM

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet either, but Carson also said if he was president he wouldn't have visited the Oregon shooting victims families, because as President, he would be busy and would wait for the next one.

and I totally agree he is savant or in someplace in the autism spectrum.

CroFlames · 10-13-2015, 09:19 AM

So is Carson going to make a law that requires citizens to rush towards and armed shooter in an attempt to stop the shooter? If you don't, do you go to prison?

The worship of guns and "protection" in this country is sickening.

Is he also going to ban teaching evolution in schools since obviously (according to him) it's completely false? Why would you knowingly teach children false things?

photon · 10-13-2015, 09:29 AM

Oh yeah, Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery according to Carson.

Thor · 10-13-2015, 09:35 AM

Its just so hard to fathom this disconnect these people have, the stuff they believe, passionately... Its so hard to "put myself in their shoes" when their shoes are firmly planted on planet CrazyMcNutBalls.

CroFlames · 10-13-2015, 09:37 AM

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Oh yeah, Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery according to Carson.

It's funny how especially republicans of deep Christian beliefs are against obamacare. They are so entrenched in their "Christianity" that they refuse to believe in evolution, yet they refuse one of the main tenants of Christianity that of charity and compassion.

I'm no expert, but I'm almost certain Christianity and Jesus taught compassion and giving to the poor and underprivileged is the right thing to do. Instead of shunning Pope Francis, perhaps they should read what he's all about.