06-07-2023, 03:00 PM
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#16501
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Vinny01 - Portzline on the radio today said Roslivic is almost a lock to be moved before the start of next season. Sillinger is a future top 6 C for them (Portzline’s words).
I don’t even want Roslivic I tossed him in for cap purposes.
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Is there no loyalty to the hometown boy any more!?!?!
Interesting. Still, one of their soon to be RFAs would be preferable over Roslivic.
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06-07-2023, 03:04 PM
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#16502
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
https://twitter.com/brianhedger/stat...Id-kuUoekIUv4A
Columbus looking for more veteran D help and mentioned Severson from NJ. I heard Portzline on the FAN today mention the 3rd pick is where they will address the center ice position. He says it is hard to see any situation where they move the pick.
I do wonder if they would have interest for a Lindholm/Hanifin combo which would solve their needs.
I still wonder about something like:
Lindholm+Hanifin+16
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Roslivic+Bean+3+35
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That would be a fair offer as long as Hanifin and Lindholm were willing to re-sign with Columbus.
Looking at it from Calgary’s perspective, they are getting a chance at picking a top player that could be a number one centre in 2-3 years. There is always a risk with any draft pick not turning out but it’s a risk worth taking for a pick that high in this draft. Roslovic and Bean are serviceable players with upside that they could still reach.
From the Columbus perspective, they are getting an established #1 centre with proven chemistry with Gaudreau. A Gaudreau-Lindholm-Laine line could potentially be one of of the best lines in hockey for the next few years. They are also getting a solid top 2-3 defenceman that plays huge minutes and has shown huge improvement each year since he joined the flames.
And don’t discount the 16th overall pick for the Blue Jackets. There are lots of examples where picks taken in that range turn out better than at least one player taken in the top 5 of the same draft. There is a real possibility this trade looks better for the Blue Jackets in 3 years. At best, Carlsson (who the flames would likely draft at #3 overall) is as good as Lindholm by then.
I would still jump on this trade if it was available though. I think both teams take an equal risk/reward in this trade.
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06-07-2023, 03:18 PM
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#16503
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Franchise Player
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CBJ still don’t have a #1C prospect for their rebuild. Johnson is probably going to stick at LW. Sillinger is a #2-3 guy. I just can’t see why they’d pass on one of the most sure-fire #1C draft bets in years for a guy who will be 29 when they extend him.
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06-07-2023, 03:31 PM
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#16504
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
CBJ still don’t have a #1C prospect for their rebuild. Johnson is probably going to stick at LW. Sillinger is a #2-3 guy. I just can’t see why they’d pass on one of the most sure-fire #1C draft bets in years for a guy who will be 29 when they extend him.
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It is a rare trade no doubt. I would not bet on it actually happening. However, their team seems to be pushing hard for a “win now” window. Their core players of Gaudreau, Laine, Jenner, Werenski and Gudbranson are all signed to compete for playoffs right now. Adding Lindholm and Hanifin to that group would be a big boost to that team competing with the others in their division.
Whichever player they get at #3 likely won’t be a player of Lindholm’s caliber for at least 2-3 years. Those are the prime years for all of their current core. You could have a younger (and possibly better) version of Lindholm in 3 years or you could have Lindholm + Hanifin right now. Not to mention still getting 16th overall from Calgary.
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06-07-2023, 03:48 PM
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#16505
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
CBJ still don’t have a #1C prospect for their rebuild. Johnson is probably going to stick at LW. Sillinger is a #2-3 guy. I just can’t see why they’d pass on one of the most sure-fire #1C draft bets in years for a guy who will be 29 when they extend him.
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Depends on wether they view the window is now (4 year Babcock window) which I think some think is the case, or they continue the long play.
An extended Lindholm would make sense if they want to go with what they have now, bolster the TOP line and reunite the chemistry. I could see that being about the only play for the 3rd pick. I was hoping the idea maybe would have come up in the Marek show this morning but it didn’t, Friedman just kept emphasizing that picks that high never get traded and he’s not sure it make sense to unless the deal is really really good.
I think that deal could work, but it’s a long shot if anything, and with the 22nd gone there’s no real other way to make it work for Calgary, unless you want to get really silly and start including one of the top D prospects from Columbus and then Sillinger, 33rd and likely a Roslivic.
If I’m Calgary though, Lindholm has to return you a young stud C.
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06-07-2023, 04:06 PM
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#16506
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Royle9
Depends on wether they view the window is now (4 year Babcock window) which I think some think is the case, or they continue the long play.
An extended Lindholm would make sense if they want to go with what they have now, bolster the TOP line and reunite the chemistry. I could see that being about the only play for the 3rd pick. I was hoping the idea maybe would have come up in the Marek show this morning but it didn’t, Friedman just kept emphasizing that picks that high never get traded and he’s not sure it make sense to unless the deal is really really good.
I think that deal could work, but it’s a long shot if anything, and with the 22nd gone there’s no real other way to make it work for Calgary, unless you want to get really silly and start including one of the top D prospects from Columbus and then Sillinger, 33rd and likely a Roslivic.
If I’m Calgary though, Lindholm has to return you a young stud C.
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Who is going to trade you a stud young Centre in the cap era? Those, and young mobile dmen are among the biggest assets a franchise can have. I don’t think anyone would deal those as that sets your future up. My guess on Lindholm’s return for the flames: mid first, B grade prospect (2nd line potential), one or two 2nd rounders
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06-07-2023, 04:12 PM
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#16507
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bluejays
Who is going to trade you a stud young Centre in the cap era? Those, and young mobile dmen are among the biggest assets a franchise can have. I don’t think anyone would deal those as that sets your future up. My guess on Lindholm’s return for the flames: mid first, B grade prospect (2nd line potential), one or two 2nd rounders
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Yup. Sillinger and a 1st is what I was expecting
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06-07-2023, 04:23 PM
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#16508
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First Line Centre
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I don't think Columbus will trade #3 either, but they are a small market team that typically does not attract UFA's and or always retains their star players. So timing matters.
Leo going to come over to NA right after his draft? Or is he staying home for a year first?
Gaudreau
Werenski
Jenner
Laine
Provorov
These guys are all UFA's in the next 2-4 years except Gaudreau who will be 32+ by the time Leo becomes a star (may be no better than Lindholm)
They have cap, they have other young players besides #3. Doubt it happens but at some point you need to try and win and timing of the best players they have it makes sense to go all in now.
If it did happen Lindholm and a new contract plus #16 might be what it will take.
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06-07-2023, 04:43 PM
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#16509
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Franchise Player
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Sounds like PLD is looking for a trade lol
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06-07-2023, 04:57 PM
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#16510
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Call me crazy but PLD is the only one for one lindy trade I'm interested in. I think with the right conditions he would sign here. Prominent French players, hot market, undisputed 1c, potentially even a French coach...
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06-07-2023, 04:59 PM
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#16511
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Columbus won't trade 3, not even worth thought.
They already used their extra 1st and we were two slow to take advantage. Few potential 23 1sts remain that are reasonable targets.
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06-07-2023, 05:02 PM
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#16512
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
daily faceoff hast 5 RFAs that might not get qualifying offers:
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/ma...this-offseason
1. Blackwood
2. Puljujarvi
3. Gurianov
4. Comtois
5. Bear
Gurianov and Comtois could be interesting reclamation projects. I recall hearing that the Flames were high on Comtois in his draft year.
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Flames should try for all 3 of those forwards. That's the biggest need, big forwards who can skate with skill.
I thought the Canucks included Bear in their core in some public statement they made after the season.
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06-07-2023, 05:04 PM
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#16513
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Call me crazy but PLD is the only one for one lindy trade I'm interested in. I think with the right conditions he would sign here. Prominent French players, hot market, undisputed 1c, potentially even a French coach...
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I thought it’s the leagues worst kept secret PLD is signing with Montreal the day he can? Assuming Montreal wants him. In any case he’s not consistent. Don’t want. He’s old enough where he is what he is. And fully agree Columbus isn’t dealing the third for anything in a year like this for the reasons outlined. Crazy how many think they will just for Lindholm. If the shoe were on the other foot and my team did that I’d die.
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06-07-2023, 05:05 PM
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#16514
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Call me crazy but PLD is the only one for one lindy trade I'm interested in. I think with the right conditions he would sign here. Prominent French players, hot market, undisputed 1c, potentially even a French coach...
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It'd be worth a shot. Still a Columbus 3rd overall lol
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06-07-2023, 05:10 PM
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#16515
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Bring in Bear. If there is one thing the Flames seem to be good at is getting defensemen on the right track. Plus, I just like the idea of having a Bear and Wolf on the same team. This is of course why I could never be a GM.
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06-07-2023, 05:19 PM
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#16516
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Maybe I'm the crazy one but I want no part of PLD.
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06-07-2023, 05:26 PM
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#16517
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Maybe I'm the crazy one but I want no part of PLD.
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If he is willing to sign, I'm all for it.
If he isn't willing to sign long term, not interested.
Guys a Beast and would become a fan favourite very quickly. But in the end, we can't afford to lose the assets it would take to get him only for him to walk a few months later.
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06-07-2023, 05:26 PM
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#16518
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I love PLD as a player- he's huge, fast, and mean. We could absolutely use a player like that. As a person, he seems like somebody I wouldn't want in the locker room.
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06-07-2023, 05:27 PM
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#16519
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Maybe I'm the crazy one but I want no part of PLD.
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Yep, major Josh Anderson vibes. Let Montreal have both.
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