2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[PepsiFree]

Love that Royle’s update didn’t mention Kadri at all, someone still had to ask about Kadri, was told nothing had changed, and we then dove right into chatter about trading Kadri anyway lol.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by traptor

They wouldn't grade knies for Rants. They're not trading him for Rasmus and Kadri

Oh I didn’t say Tre would do it, just said that is the only asset of value that Toronto has that would entice the Flames

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Not really sure how, getting an offensive young forward, a solid RD you can move for further prospects, and 1st. Knies is a prospect you could couple with another pick to get a really high end young player.

Oh yeah I meant for Toronto lol. That s robbery. Love it.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The worst part of the offseason is team tank's neverending bitching about the team not being the worst in the league and not blowing it up. Over and over...

Especially in a year that just proved how perilous it is to assume the tank gets you what you want.

[FanSince'01]

Originally Posted by Iniggywetrust

In the short term, you’re right. We may be less likely attract good players. But you get a good young stud team on the way up, who is winning and that all changes. Good players want to play with good players. Edmonton has proved that. They were a bad destination for many years, then they got McDavid.

Oh I 100% agree with you there, I just think that with the situation the team is in right now that the chances of you successfully cashing in on getting a top draft pick and having it become a true superstar (i.e. McKenna or DuPont) off of trading Kadri are low and so if it doesn’t work, I think you end up doing significantly more damage than good.

If it works out, awesome and we look like geniuses. If it doesn’t though, this is how you start down the path of becoming the Sabres. And the latter is much more likely statistically to happen between the two scenarios.

If you can’t tell, I’m not much of a gambling man lol.

[Royle9]

Knies wants to stay and is going to get paid Marner money, dont think hes going anywhere.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

The answer is Matthew Knies.

TO Tor
Kadri
Andersson (50%)

TO CGY
Knies
Reilly
2028 1st

Pipe dream.

You won’t Knies out of Toronto.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Iniggywetrust

In the short term, you’re right. We may be less likely attract good players. But you get a good young stud team on the way up, who is winning and that all changes. Good players want to play with good players. Edmonton has proved that. They were a bad destination for many years, then they got McDavid.

At best players haven’t turn down trades there. But what big UFAs have they signed because of him? Hyman? Surely you don't count Perry, Skinner, etc.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Knies wants to stay and is going to get paid Marner money, dont think hes going anywhere.

Yes likely. Outside of Knies, they have nothing that would entice the Flames to make a trade for Andersson (or in the unlikely scenario Kadri)

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

The answer is Matthew Knies.

TO Tor
Kadri
Andersson (50%)

TO CGY
Knies
Reilly
2028 1st

What?? I’d like some of what you’re on.

[dammage79]

Toronto doesn't make good trading partners for CGY.

The likes of Cowan, Robertson do nothing for the organization. Toronto has little to no value in available picks. Plus I highly doubt Conroy and his management team has any desire to help Trelivings if they can't help themselves first.

Nope, I suspect Andersson will be heading elsewhere. And I hope it's in the Pacific like SJ.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Knies wants to stay and is going to get paid Marner money, dont think hes going anywhere.

Marner money? After a percentage-driven sub-60 point season? That's... bold.

His personal even strength sh% was over 18% lol. That's literally double league average.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Marner money? After a percentage-driven sub-60 point season? That's... bold.

His personal even strength sh% was over 18% lol. That's literally double league average.

Knies is legit. It's a poor mans skilled power forward and will eventually get paid. He's a guy who may be borderline 1st line but plays hard and is smart. Akin to a young John Tavares, but physical. He's underrated if anything.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Marner money? After a percentage-driven sub-60 point season? That's... bold.

His personal even strength sh% was over 18% lol. That's literally double league average.

Between all the stat reading did you watch him play some games?

[Rhett44]

It would be a mistake to wait on trading Kadri. He is aging and will be worth a lot less soon.

Even if he has a NTC, we should try to get him to waive. We need to maximize our draft value. Kadri will cause us to pick closer to the middle of the draft again. Instead of near the top where we want to be.

I think the priority should be trading Kadri, Andersson and Coleman in that order.

[Monahammer]

Why waste time working on trading Kadri if the options are severely limited or nil? Conny has no shortage of other players ro move first anyways. Andersson, Coleman, maybe weegar... maybe kadri would want to move then.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

It would be a mistake to wait on trading Kadri. He is aging and will be worth a lot less soon.

Even if he has a NTC, we should try to get him to waive. We need to maximize our draft value. Kadri will cause us to pick closer to the middle of the draft again. Instead of near the top where we want to be.

I think the priority should be trading Kadri, Andersson and Coleman in that order.

Just banging your head against the same wall.
The team is not tanking
Kadri has a no trade clause and isn’t interested in waiving it
Pushing him to do so would be disrespectful when he’s been clear he doesn’t want to leave
These are facts you seem intent on ignoring.

[dammage79]

Andersson for sure if rumors are true. Kadri being traded is a fools hope. Coleman...I think he's a part of the solution to the point where he could wrap his playing career up in CGY and moves into the management side.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

It would be a mistake to wait on trading Kadri. He is aging and will be worth a lot less soon.

Even if he has a NTC, we should try to get him to waive. We need to maximize our draft value. Kadri will cause us to pick closer to the middle of the draft again. Instead of near the top where we want to be.

I think the priority should be trading Kadri, Andersson and Coleman in that order.

Are you just oblivious to what the team has done and said in the last year and a half? Im not sure how many times its been said or needs to be said Kadri has no interest in waving his clause! Coleman also has a limited trade clause probably has almost no trade value even if he didnt.

The team wont tank.
Kadri wont wave.
Iggy jr is not going to get traded here.
Coleman wont return squat maybe a second. Dallas may be the only team remotely interested in him.
Huby cant be traded unless another anchor contract comes back
Andersson is the only thing we have that has any trade value or can be traded without a pile if gymnastics and also why I believe that the Andersson trade is basically the end of the rebuild part of rebuild. No else will move or has any legit value

We need a someone to start pushing kadri for minutes not selling-off our only top six center who doesnt want to be traded for dubious returns.

Not trying to dogpile on you but i find it incredibly frustrating ruminating on things that have very low to no probability of it happening.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Just banging your head against the same wall.
The team is not tanking
Kadri has a no trade clause and isn’t interested in waiving it
Pushing him to do so would be disrespectful when he’s been clear he doesn’t want to leave
These are facts you seem intent on ignoring.

I know they will never do it but it is what I hope they do

Holding onto aging assets is crazy when we should be in prime tank years. But I know the organization would never tank and we are hoping to go on a 04 type run always lol.

But everyone knows my thoughts on the rebuild/retool thing anyways. It's just I'm hoping to one day be a contender. And part of that means selling your aging assets before they lose all value.