Edmonton is No Good X: Up and Down Like a Toilet Seat

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

This post isn’t terrible
It’s ignorant/no good

It has nothing to do with the Bakersfield thing. It’s a direct quote from an Oilers “sportswriter”.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It has nothing to do with the Bakersfield thing. It’s a direct quote from an Oilers “sportswriter”.

Oh no
You must be kidding
Ha ha
I apologize for my comment then

[McG]

Originally Posted by McG

From our poor mathematics, incorrect analysis, tv watching friend, here is the Staples verdict on putting janmark on waivers:

2. With the great play of Dylan Holloway, and other veterans like Devin Shore and Derek Ryan known to the coaches as responsible two-way players, Janmark, a useful NHL role player, got beat out at forward. This is the killer interanal competition that Oilers GM Ken Holland has always talked about wanting on the Oilers. Holland has now got it. There are fights for numerous roster spots, and we’re now seeing some of the fall-out from that.

Read that closely. Killer interanal competition.

What passes for spellcheck in that Edmonton Jurinal paper?

You can check it yourself at https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...ey-get-grabbed

I don’t quote myself often, but when I do it’s no good. And it was fixed.

[JackIsBack]

So…. Three hours left and 1.6ish million to get off the Cap…. What will the Oilers do?

1) Give away Foegele or Puljujujarvi plus a pick.
2) Fake an injury
3) something else like running with only 21 roster players

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

So…. Three hours left and 1.6ish million to get off the Cap…. What will the Oilers do?

1) Give away Foegele or Puljujujarvi plus a pick.
2) Fake an injury
3) something else like running with only 21 roster players

I’m guessing they run with 21 players, although the smart move is to move on from Puljujarvi and recoup a late draft pick (3rd ish) and give them some cap breathing room. Put Kostin in Puljujarvi’s spot in the lineup it isn’t that much of a drop off.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I’m guessing they run with 21 players, although the smart move is to move on from Puljujarvi and recoup a late draft pick (3rd ish) and give them some cap breathing room. Put Kostin in Puljujarvi’s spot in the lineup it isn’t that much of a drop off.

Although Puljujarvi isn’t practicing according to Baghdad Bob, maybe JP is on the move.

[Enoch Root]

Yes, they have a 23 man roster currently, that is $1.6M over. They need to remove 2 bodies (Shore and Benson?) and they would be a few dollars under, with a 21 man roster.

The problem with that strategy is that they will have ZERO wiggle room for injuries. They will have either 12 forwards and 7 D, or 13 forwards and 6 D on the roster. So if someone gets banged up, but isn't out long enough for LTIR, they are running with a depleted roster. Not that anyone would even notice, as the 4th line will play 5 minutes a night anyway.

[Enoch Root]

Obviously they cannot go the entire season like that, so even though they will make it under the bar today, they still have to solve the problem by moving out someone with a little more cap hit (Puljujarvi, Barrie or Foegele)

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Obviously they cannot go the entire season like that, so even though they will make it under the bar today, they still have to solve the problem by moving out someone with a little more cap hit (Puljujarvi, Barrie or Foegele)

I think it has to be Puljujarvi. I think Foegele is immovable with multiple years. Barrie is a tire fire but they need to keep him in that patchwork defensive core they have. Holland needs to dust his hands and take what he can get for JP or this is going to end up blowing up in his face.

If they get in a situation with injuries (not of the LTIR kind) and can’t ice a full lineup for a while, Holland will be forced to fire sale someone and other GMs will take advantage of him being over a barrel. Someone will then take Foegele, but he will be going with Holloway, Broberg or their 2023 1st

[JackIsBack]

I agree…. I think Barrie is safe, I think Foegele will require an enticement to be traded, and some other team could take a chance on Jesse P for futures or little in return to Edmonton (maybe another project going back)

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Canucks, Kings and Ducks are all better. If Vegas can get back to form the Oilers are delusional if they think it's another cakewalk year.

The Canucks have no D (Oilers don't either but they have their top 2 guys and Hyman and Kane can produce - more question marks like Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, Hoglander on the Canucks who they'll need to produce but have no record doing it). I haven't been following the Ducks offseason at all but their group actually doesn't look bad at all. They could surprise people (maybe only me?) if Gibson can find his old ways.

[JackIsBack]

So Edmonton going so far with 2 roster spots short…. I don’t think they can keep that up for long, but it at least keeps them away from making a desperation trade. Maybe there is an injury that prevents them from making an undesirable move…. Imagine if they managed their cap better…. Their Dead Cap alone gets them under…. Or a reasonable Nurse contract valuation - Holland has never produced a competitive team in the cap era…. Although those people up north thinks he’s a cap genius.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

So Edmonton going so far with 2 roster spots short…. I don’t think they can keep that up for long, but it at least keeps them away from making a desperation trade. Maybe there is an injury that prevents them from making an undesirable move…. Imagine if they managed their cap better…. Their Dead Cap alone gets them under…. Or a reasonable Nurse contract valuation - Holland has never produced a competitive team in the cap era…. Although those people up north thinks he’s a cap genius.

Already potentially down a forward on night one, Yamamoto is questionable for their season opener.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

So Edmonton going so far with 2 roster spots short…. I don’t think they can keep that up for long, but it at least keeps them away from making a desperation trade. Maybe there is an injury that prevents them from making an undesirable move…. Imagine if they managed their cap better…. Their Dead Cap alone gets them under…. Or a reasonable Nurse contract valuation - Holland has never produced a competitive team in the cap era…. Although those people up north thinks he’s a cap genius.

Why?

It actually makes a degree of sense for them. They play their wonder-boys a huge ton of minutes and their 4th line sees so little ice time their feet dont even get cold.

They've been doing it for years, why stop now? They have about 6 forwards even worth talking about, if the other 6 never play then just bank the cap space.

They have 1 PP unit that plays the full 2 minutes every time and then hops right back over the boards.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by JackIsBack

So Edmonton going so far with 2 roster spots short…. I don’t think they can keep that up for long, but it at least keeps them away from making a desperation trade. Maybe there is an injury that prevents them from making an undesirable move…. Imagine if they managed their cap better…. Their Dead Cap alone gets them under…. Or a reasonable Nurse contract valuation - Holland has never produced a competitive team in the cap era…. Although those people up north thinks he’s a cap genius.

Also I am a massive troll to Oiler fans when I said that they had no choice but to have Holloway on the opening roster due to cap reasons when he was being lauded by fans and media for his spectacular performance and perseverance during camp.

He could have done absolutely nothing and was still making the opening night. With that said I am happy for Dylan Holloway making the step.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Locke

Why?

It actually makes a degree of sense for them. They play their wonder-boys a huge ton of minutes and their 4th line sees so little ice time their feet dont even get cold.

They've been doing it for years, why stop now? They have about 6 forwards even worth talking about, if the other 6 never play then just bank the cap space.

They have 1 PP unit that plays the full 2 minutes every time and then hops right back over the boards.

It gets interesting if one of their top 6 gets banged up and misses some games.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

It gets interesting if one of their top 6 gets banged up and misses some games.

If you're going to bounce on the Devil then you may as well hit the gas.

Nobody ever accused the Oilers of being smart.

[Eric Vail]

So, if the Oilers are forced to go with 21 players of the 23 on their roster currently, doesn't that mean they have to pass them through waivers and send them to the farm? Those two players could potentially be claimed which would eat away at their depth even more.

[topfiverecords]

They waived Shore and he cleared. They also waived Brad Malone.

[Party Elephant]

Capfriendly has them at $0 in cap space now with Shore off the roster and Benson on LTIR. 12 forwards, 1 of whom is the waiver-cleared Malone, 7 D and 2 goalies. I think the most telling thing is the 12 forwards where at least one of them is a player 31 NHL teams didn't want for free.