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[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

That’s not true at all

Yes it is. Lucid episodes are extremely common in people with dementia.

Joe clearly is suffering from cognitive decline. It’s not a straight line. He’ll have good days and bad. But as time goes by, the bad days will outnumber the good with increasing number.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by opendoor

OK? Can you explain why a 20 year old American would be unable to vote?

He's never had the chance to vote in a Presidential election...

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

He's never had the chance to vote in a Presidential election...

Sure, but this is what I was responding to originally:

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Potentially. Equally likely, is that this 20 year old can not vote and has been hearing about how dangerous Trump is to democracy and how a second Trump presidency will destroy America. He's probably been hearing it for his entirety of high school and saw this as his opportunity to "save" America.

I'm assuming the above guesses are correct and they're thinking that you have to be 21 to vote.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yes it is. Lucid episodes are extremely common in people with dementia.

Joe clearly is suffering from cognitive decline. It’s not a straight line. He’ll have good days and bad. But as time goes by, the bad days will outnumber the good with increasing number.

Both my grandmothers had it, my mom has it and not once have any of them been “lucid”. Less confused? Sure. Lucid as if they are completely normal? No way.

[FlamesAddiction]

There are several different types of neurodegenerative diseases. Only a trained specialist would be able to diagnose Biden to pinpoint what is causing the decline. It could be dementia, but it could be other things and not all of them would display the same way.

I have seen it in some elderly people who suffer from these types of things that sometimes they have good days and sometimes bad days. Was it specifically dementia that they suffered from, or something else, I have no idea. There is no point in trying to diagnose Biden's specific ailment over the internet.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I just watched the NBC exclusive with Biden. Completely different man compared to the debate night. He was clear, fast on his responses and even clever. So very confused about him.

This one?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1813025410982289507

[Zary's-Mustache]

He's literally incompetent.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

People with dementia are like that. Perfectly fine one day. Total mess the next.

You are right. I remember vividly, as a 19 year old, visiting my grandmother who was struggling with dementia. It was a Saturday afternoon. She was sharp, engaging and wonderful company. I couldn’t believe it, I was buzzing. I naively was convinced she was getting better - if not actually better.

That was very short lived. About four months later, she struggled to remember me when I returned home from college.

At the time, that hurt deeply, I was always, undeservedly, the apple of her eye. I have since come to appreciate that day as a gift.

Biden is not at the stage my grandmother was, but from the limited insights we get, I think I recognise the journey.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I don’t know if they all are but my grandma was. Had good days and bad. The good days were great. The bad days were terrible. Reminded me a lot of Biden and the issues he has.

Not only days but sometimes hours, my mother-in law sometimes couldn't remember my name or our kids names and would get very angry for no apparent reason but after the wife would have her nap for a few hours she would be laughing about stuff that happened the day before or even years earlier and remembered everyone.

Originally Posted by Zulu29

That’s not true at all

Wrong bud

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

He's literally incompetent.

So is Trump, except he's far more dangerous, if he wins, house stays and senate flips, America will take many years to recover, if ever.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

So is Trump, except he's far more dangerous, if he wins, house stays and senate flips, America will take many years to recover, if ever.

Right. But whataboutisms about Trump isn't going to work here.

Trump is the same level of melted brain he was last election. It's clear the Biden isn't. And it is OK for people to be concerned about that.

Just because Trump sucks and is a soft brained psycho path doesn't mean Democrats need to accept less of their own candidate and leader.

Biden needs to step down. The Democratic Party is going to hand their Country over to Trump, not the voters.

But maybe sometimes a system needs to be completely broken and torn down to be fixed. And I think that is where the US may be headed if the checks and balances don't work.

[nfotiu]

It really seemed like Biden was on a path to resign this week but that all got derailed by the shooting.

Trump has cooked up a wonky economic platform and there needs to be someone who can effectively call him out on it. His plan for fighting inflation is to poor gas on the fire and create out of control inflation.

They also need to be holding him to task for Project 2025.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Bagor

This one?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1813025410982289507

Also, Biden appointed her.

Sad state of affairs.

[dobbles]

Something I haven't seen discussed regarding the failure of the secret service is a discussion of just how large the detail is for Trump. It's important to remember that he is not currently president and so I doubt he is being protected as thoroughly as Biden. I'm sure being both a candidate and a former president gets him a pretty decent team but I just wonder what the difference in manpower and logistical planning there is. Its not like Jimmy Carter has had sniper teams covering him as he built houses the last 40 years.

[MoneyGuy]

I’ve changed my mind; Biden should step aside. The country’s at stake.

[Firebot]

Biden could barely hold him up to Wade vs Roe in the debate, the most controversial issue.

Right now all the media cares about is Biden's age, and it's a complete distraction. And the assassination attempt just further distracts and has given Trump an invincible aura. Democrats had a problem before the assassination attempt, now they have a runaway momentum freight train to deal with.

This is a PR disaster.



Democrats absolutely need to make a decision, one they should have done a year ago.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Biden could barely hold him up to Wade vs Roe in the debate, the most controversial issue.

Right now all the media cares about is Biden's age, and it's a complete distraction. And the assassination attempt just further distracts and has given Trump an invincible aura. Democrats had a problem before the assassination attempt, now they have a runaway momentum freight train to deal with.

Democrats absolutely need to make a decision, one they should have done a year ago.

That "assassination" was perfectly planned and executed by MAGA et al

[Muta]

I'd rather have an 'old' Biden than convicted felon / rapist Donald Trump.

I can't believe people would look back at Trump's time in office bewteen 2016-2020, one of the worst presidential trainwrecks in American history, and be like, 'yeah, I want four more of that'.

Absolute ####ing lunacy.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

That "assassination" was perfectly planned and executed by MAGA et al

So yeah, the conspiracy theories aren’t just coming from the right.

“Conspiracy theories are not limited to one political persuasion,” said Imran Ahmed, the chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a campaign group, adding that such viewpoints were an attempt to “place events in a narrative that makes sense to us” and that “reinforce our beliefs and biases”.

“Because of the high emotions around the [US] election, it reinforces people’s desire to fit what is happening around a pre-determined narrative that satisfies their political perspectives either way,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-to-right-wing

[Bonded]

Too bad it seems like Biden is bent on holding onto to the nomination. He will tarnish his legacy like RGB did