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Old 12-16-2025, 08:33 PM   #16241
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You misunderstand. The Flames aren’t trying to get Knies. The Leafs are trying to get Andersson. And the price just so happens to be Knies.

Calgary has zero incentive to add to that trade.
Well the incentive would be to get Knies for “parts”

Using your $50 analogy - you can give $10 change and still come out ahead

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Old 12-16-2025, 08:35 PM   #16242
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You misunderstand. The Flames aren’t trying to get Knies. The Leafs are trying to get Andersson. And the price just so happens to be Knies.

Calgary has zero incentive to add to that trade.
Flames can insist on that player all they want but it’s either intentionally unrealistic, I.e they will not deal with the Leafs based on a crazy trade ask, or they’re talking bigger deal.

Or, more likely, it’s someone using the media to advantage their position.
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I think people are seriously undervaluing Easton Cowan. He’s no Matthew Knies, but he would be a nice acquisition.
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Old 12-16-2025, 09:10 PM   #16244
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Cowan + an unprotected '28 1st + a second would be my price
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I think people are seriously undervaluing Easton Cowan. He’s no Matthew Knies, but he would be a nice acquisition.
I just think other teams can do better than Cowan + a first in 2028, unless the first is unprotected
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Cowan + an unprotected '28 1st + a second would be my price
Yup.

For me, the Knies talk is just to say: the price is high, call us when you're serious. And serious means 1st + Cowan +
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Flames can insist on that player all they want but it’s either intentionally unrealistic, I.e they will not deal with the Leafs based on a crazy trade ask, or they’re talking bigger deal.

Or, more likely, it’s someone using the media to advantage their position.
Why would they be talking a bigger deal if that’s the price just for Andersson?

Toronto is either going to have to pony up, create a “parts” deal with that kind of value (they can’t), or let Andersson go to a competitor who actually has something to offer.

Again, zero reason for Calgary to add.
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Old 12-16-2025, 09:26 PM   #16248
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Still fail to see what Toronto has that would net Ras
Sign me up for an unprotected 20281st...that will be worth the wait
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Sign me up for an unprotected 20281st...that will be worth the wait
100%

Then pursue a '27 first in a Kadri trade, and they'll have 2 1sts for 5 consecutive drafts. That's how you build a talent pool
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Why would they be talking a bigger deal if that’s the price just for Andersson?

Toronto is either going to have to pony up, create a “parts” deal with that kind of value (they can’t), or let Andersson go to a competitor who actually has something to offer.

Again, zero reason for Calgary to add.
If they like the player enough? Sure they’d add.

Knies isn’t the price for just Andersson. It’s not a realistic one anyway. The Flames can bluff their hand, but it’s just not a good faith negotiation if that’s the price they’d hold on.

The value equivalence isn’t there, even if you factor in blocking your rival from acquiring a player you covet.

The Leafs with Andersson and minus Knies doesn’t make them a better team, one for one. Which is why I say: if the Flames want Knies and it stops there, they’d need to add. If they don’t want to add then there’s not a deal to be made.
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If they like the player enough? Sure they’d add.

Knies isn’t the price for just Andersson. It’s not a realistic one anyway. The Flames can bluff their hand, but it’s just not a good faith negotiation if that’s the price they’d hold on.

The value equivalence isn’t there, even if you factor in blocking your rival from acquiring a player you covet.

The Leafs with Andersson and minus Knies doesn’t make them a better team, one for one. Which is why I say: if the Flames want Knies and it stops there, they’d need to add. If they don’t want to add then there’s not a deal to be made.
Oh well, guess the Leafs aren’t getting Andersson.

On to better offers!
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